(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[9000]OT[1x60 byo-yomi]
GN[European Go Congress 2009 round 9 board 6]PW[Thomas Debarre]PB[Ilya Shikshin]WR[5d]BR[7d]DT[2009-08-07]EV[main]RO[9]PC[Groningen, Netherlands]WT[FR]BT[RU]US[kamyszyn]
;B[qd]
;W[dp]
;B[pq]
;W[dc]
;B[de]C[Pingu007 [3d\]: go tom go!
Glutus [6k\]: allé thomas on est avec toi :D
globax [4d\]: allez thomas !
]
;W[cg]C[mope: Ilya win 20 points
]
;B[cc]
;W[gc]
;B[dd]C[donzet [?\]: allez thomas
]
;W[db]
;B[fe]
;W[cj]
;B[hd]
;W[hc]
;B[id]C[Thargol [-\]: courage thomas
]
;W[ic]
;B[jd]
;W[kc]
;B[le]
;W[po]
;B[pl]C[Oresama [2k\]: il en est ou dans le tournoi?
bolbi [-\]: http://egc2009.nl/?q=node/1472
Oresama [2k\]: merci
bolbi [-\]: je t'en prie
Oresama [2k\]: en gras les victoires ?
InsanePat [-\]: juste devant motoki '_'
InsanePat [-\]: oui
Oresama [2k\]: ok
]
;W[mp]
;B[oo]C[Oresama [2k\]: y'a pas de chinois a part yanqi etonnant
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;W[on]
;B[no]
;W[pp]
;B[nq]
;W[qq]
;B[oq]
;W[nn]
;B[mo]
;W[rp]C[bensenseii [-\]: Allez Thomas
]
;B[iq]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: q11?
Pinguschaf [5d\]: i think thomas-style is f3 ^^
bensenseii [-\]: Mmmmmh
jleone [5k\]: q13
Cassis0 [5d\]: m17, q11 and f3
Cassis0 [5d\]: 3 big points
Pinguschaf [5d\]: m17 is also typical thomas
Pinguschaf [5d\]: but i prefer f3
bensenseii [-\]: Mmmh
bensenseii [-\]: I think Q11 would be better
Pinguschaf [5d\]: i dont
Pinguschaf [5d\]: q11 helps black using his upper left stones
bensenseii [-\]: Mmmmh
bensenseii [-\]: Maybe
Cassis0 [5d\]: pour moi ça doit se jouer en haut à droite, c'est clairement la que noir prépare quelque chose 
]
;W[pi]C[Pinguschaf [5d\]: :)
Cassis0 [5d\]: Im lucky today 
waytowin [7d?\]: q11 only one
Pinguschaf [5d\]: so lets see how ilya will handle this ^^
Cassis0 [5d\]: lets play poker
waytowin [7d?\]: ilya will win this
Hashishin [-\]: whre should B blay waytow?
Hashishin [-\]: where*
]
;B[lc]C[waytowin [7d?\]: f3 big
]
;W[kb]C[Hashishin [-\]: hms13 also?
waytowin [7d?\]: s13?
Hashishin [-\]: sry 
Hashishin [-\]: r/ Q 13 ^^
waytowin [7d?\]: no
Hashishin [-\]: ok thx
Hashishin [-\]: :)
jleone [5k\]: why not q13 or q12 instead of q11 ?
waytowin [7d?\]: "the best move of your opponent is the best your move"   b q11 was very big
]
;B[nl]C[bobombera [9k\]: almost true
jleone [5k\]: black is less confident to get points on the upper side with w q13, just imagine now the w stone at q13
Cassis0 [5d\]: r14? 
]
;W[pf]C[bistrogo [3d\]: yes to sttle seems the best way to go
]
;B[pe]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: r14 :)
bistrogo [3d\]: :)
jleone [5k\]: now black has a good way to block w and he gets big corner
]
;W[qf]C[waytowin [7d?\]: n6.....
jleone [5k\]: am i wrong ?
Cassis0 [5d\]: n16 f3?
]
;B[ni]C[Jadeite [?\]: jleone, B was going to get something here anyway, either the corner or the side
bistrogo [3d\]: tu voulais dir n6 cassis?
bistrogo [3d\]: dire*
Pinguschaf [5d\]: i expected N6 instead of o11
Cassis0 [5d\]: yep
bistrogo [3d\]: o11 is interesting but it will be hard to keep the corner and center
Cassis0 [5d\]: b wants to put pressure on c10 after
bistrogo [3d\]: yes
bistrogo [3d\]: but thomas will do something befor
Cassis0 [5d\]: n6 now for white looks good
bistrogo [3d\]: it's so obvious
Cassis0 [5d\]: or s16 
isoparm [2k\]: b 15 too, once q 14 is safe.
barakeel [1d\]: i would play q17
Cassis0 [5d\]: s15 black in sente hurts
Cassis0 [5d\]: I like s16 now 
Pinguschaf [5d\]: if you play s16 now it will destroy all the aji in the corner
Pinguschaf [5d\]: black would be satisfied
Pinguschaf [5d\]: white should try to leave the q17 point for later
Cassis0 [5d\]: u cannot think about aji in the corner if q14 is not safe... 
globax [4d\]: i would s16
Cassis0 [5d\]: s16 in sente is good enough 
Cassis0 [5d\]: but black wont add a move i guess
Cassis0 [5d\]: and play around e10
Pinguschaf [5d\]: maybe but i wouldnt be happy about it
Cassis0 [5d\]: u canoot have all :) 
globax [4d\]: s16-s17-s15n6naturel
Pinguschaf [5d\]: because black played q15 before which is basically a bad shape
Pinguschaf [5d\]: and after s16 everything will be fixed
Cassis0 [5d\]: you can win with bad shapes 
Pinguschaf [5d\]: thats not the point^^
Cassis0 [5d\]: this "bad shape" is efficient here
Cassis0 [5d\]: w has no good move to attack this corner 
Cassis0 [5d\]: because of m17
Pinguschaf [5d\]: q17 is a good point
]
;W[rd]C[Pinguschaf [5d\]: was^^
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;B[rc]C[barakeel [1d\]: still
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;W[re]
;B[fq]C[Pinguschaf [5d\]: i think n6 is extremely big
Pinguschaf [5d\]: for both
Cassis0 [5d\]: oh f3 not good
barakeel [1d\]: why is f3 not good?
JoostC [3d\]: If white n6 black plays dubble hane?
]
;W[eq]
;B[fp]
;W[dn]C[globax [4d\]: f3 lent
JoostC [3d\]: Why not white f4
waytowin [7d?\]: b m7
TeeSushi [3d\]: i like the black position
globax [4d\]: n6 gros
waytowin [7d?\]: or n6
globax [4d\]: f2-g2-n6
globax [4d\]: pour protéger c3
]
;B[ek]C[Hashishin [-\]: why n6 so big?
waytowin [7d?\]: D
TeeSushi [3d\]: because n6 closes in p6 
JoostC [3d\]: If white D8 black f7
Jadeite [?\]: bang on the head
Lepenski [1k\]: big moyo
globax [4d\]: centre, +q6
JoostC [3d\]: White F7?
Hashishin [-\]: thx all body ^^
JoostC [3d\]: I think white E3 was wrong F4 or F5 prevent better a big black moyo
globax [4d\]: i also doubt e3
bistrogo [3d\]: c8 now, no choice
bistrogo [3d\]: even if it's ahrd for white
bistrogo [3d\]: hard*
JoostC [3d\]: C8 maybe too slow
bistrogo [3d\]: it is
bistrogo [3d\]: but what else george ;)
Cassis0 [5d\]: c8 is confident
JoostC [3d\]: black has C11 and F7 to continu
andoryu [-\]: E10?
Gazpacho [1d\]: c8 is what black wants 
JoostC [3d\]: sorry d11
bistrogo [3d\]: thta's why i say it's hard for w
bistrogo [3d\]: but i see no other continuation
bistrogo [3d\]: let see what thomas will find :)
JoostC [3d\]: White E7 if black C9 white D9
JoostC [3d\]: Or is that risky?
]
;W[dl]
;B[di]C[mady [-\]: if white play D11, maybe there was a chance to reduce the center, no?
mady [-\]: (played)
barakeel [1d\]: center is dame
]
;W[ci]C[bistrogo [3d\]: ^^
]
;B[dh]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: n6
mady [-\]: not in this game it seems :p
bistrogo [3d\]: time for reduction
JoostC [3d\]: Start with n6
barakeel [1d\]: n13
]
;W[dg]C[bistrogo [3d\]: start with tengen ;)
]
;B[eg]C[barakeel [1d\]: destroy all pls
globax [4d\]: n6
bistrogo [3d\]: i don't like n6 for white
barakeel [1d\]: yeah*
barakeel [1d\]: damezumari
Cassis0 [5d\]: lol?
barakeel [1d\]: n6 m6
]
;W[mm]C[JoostC [3d\]: n7?
]
;B[lk]C[JoostC [3d\]: white k4?
bistrogo [3d\]: maybe
bistrogo [3d\]: then k9 or somthing like that
globax [4d\]: l7 menace l4
JoostC [3d\]: black playe m9 really fast, protection on l5 was big too
bistrogo [3d\]: l7 really kind for the center
bistrogo [3d\]: then l4 M2
bistrogo [3d\]: or l2
Cassis0 [5d\]: protect l5 would have been so incoherent
bistrogo [3d\]: i never remember
barakeel [1d\]: n13 seems right
barakeel [1d\]: to me
]
;W[pj]C[bistrogo [3d\]: wow, thomas very confident
ItsaBadDay [8k\]: eurogo what about remaining time for each player ?
]
;B[lm]C[Cassis0 [5d\]: q10 very strange... w is acting like o5 is a weak group 
Cassis0 [5d\]: o8
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: white 1:30 black 2:11
ItsaBadDay [8k\]: ok thanks
bistrogo [3d\]: i wonder if there is a tesuji now
globax [4d\]: pk n'a t'il pas joué l7..
Cassis0 [5d\]: l7 ou n'importe quoi vers le centre
Cassis0 [5d\]: c'était la direction
Cassis0 [5d\]: pas q10...
barakeel [1d\]: je pense que lintention de blan c de captuer q8
globax [4d\]: ça a l'air cuit
bolbi [-\]: mais non
bistrogo [3d\]: c'est un élève de fan pour lui le centre est désert
barakeel [1d\]: ou de rentrer au centre
ItsaBadDay [8k\]: lol
ftroiset [2d\]: et P9 est gros
bistrogo [3d\]: p9 marche pas bien
JoostC [3d\]: If white cuts of Q8 he has about 90 points, if black plays f7 he has 100+
ftroiset [2d\]: pas tout de suite, non, mais on commence par pousser en n8, etc...
bistrogo [3d\]: et tu le laise fermer le cente en F7 après
bistrogo [3d\]: c'est rude quand même
ftroiset [2d\]: ben non, on commence par réduire le centre
]
;W[ml]C[ItsaBadDay [8k\]: c'est vrai que meme pour moi q10 semblait bizarre :)
ftroiset [2d\]: bref, vous allez voir, parce qu'il y va outt droit
]
;B[mk]C[blitzfan [5k\]: seems to me white is ahead no ?
JoostC [3d\]: Black N9 and white has shortage of liberties
Pinguschaf [5d\]: i prefer black
blitzfan [5k\]: really
ftroiset [2d\]: but nextmove is o10,no?
blitzfan [5k\]: ?
barakeel [1d\]: q7
bistrogo [3d\]: o10??
DiGigot [6k\]: p9?
bistrogo [3d\]: p9 marche pas je crois
bistrogo [3d\]: pas sans libertés suplémentaires pour p6
DiGigot [6k\]: oui il faut q7
bistrogo [3d\]: M8 only moove?
ftroiset [2d\]: G8??
barakeel [1d\]: q6 allreadt a problem
barakeel [1d\]: ior not
Oresama [2k\]: qu'est ce que risque blanc si noir C9 ?
bistrogo [3d\]: rien
Oresama [2k\]: pourquoi proposer c8 alors ?
bistrogo [3d\]: qui a proposé c8?
Cassis0 [5d\]: c8 ou d8 c'est la meme idée oresama 
Cassis0 [5d\]: a cause de q10, blanc ne mène plus la partie
bistrogo [3d\]: oula ça remonte à loin
AyoLogie: allez Ilya !!
barakeel [1d\]: c'est bien partie pour blanc il commence a prendre du retard il va s'énerver et tout détruire
]
;W[mn]C[Oresama [2k\]: marf j'avais un lag de 2 h dans le déroulement de la conversation désolé ^^
bistrogo [3d\]: :)
Oresama [2k\]: me disais il sont betes ces 3/5 dans, ils proposent des coups qui servent a rien ^^
bistrogo [3d\]: bah ça m'arrive souvent en fait
Oresama [2k\]: ^^
bistrogo [3d\]: ;)
seolki [8d\]: still diffficult, but w seems comfortable
globax [4d\]: thx seolki
barakeel [1d\]: je dirais que blanc est moins en retard que si il l'était plus
bistrogo [3d\]: tu fumes quoi en ce moment barakeel?
bistrogo [3d\]: ;)
ftroiset [2d\]: maintenant, noir doit joue Q9 ou lacher tout le bord
ftroiset [2d\]: (ou peut-être R8, mais c'est mois sûr
AyoLogie: moi je lacherai le bord pour jouer m6 pui F7
ftroiset [2d\]: C'est pas raisonnable : si on lmache le bord, blanc a déjà  100 points (avec le komi)
AyoLogie: je n'ai ni dieux, ni maitres , je suis libre et déraisonnable
Oresama [2k\]: si noir en fait plus ...
ftroiset [2d\]: oui, mais il ne fait jamais plus de 80 ppoints aucentre
Oresama [2k\]: il n'a pas que ca
]
;B[ln]C[misha91 [2d\]: p9 ?
ftroiset [2d\]: plus d'autre coup, je pense
]
;W[ok]C[ftroiset [2d\]: ça va être dur pour noir
bistrogo [3d\]: it will be very close
bistrogo [3d\]: j'ai fait une courte estimation c'est du 50/50
ftroiset [2d\]: looks better for w
kkwett [2k\]: avec Q6, noir ne peut rien faire ? genre Q6 R7 R6 R7 P7 ?
Cassis0 [5d\]: f7 and b is much ahead
kkwett [2k\]: Q6 Q7 R6 R7 P7
kkwett [2k\]: pour connecter nesuite en O9
kkwett [2k\]: bof ça lui fait pas gagner grand chose ...
ftroiset [2d\]: certainly not ahead 
ftroiset [2d\]: lots of weaknesse on that "wall"
Janan [-\]: quelqu'un sait quel âge à Thomas maintenant?
bolbi [-\]: 16
Janan [-\]: merci :) 
Janan [-\]: sacré lui
DiGigot [6k\]: dans quelques décennies, tous les meilleurs joueurs de France auront découvert le go dans hikaru :)
ftroiset [2d\]: pas trop de décennies, après, ce sera sur KGS
Nemerid [-\]: je trouve quand meme que noir est un peu mieux
ftroiset [2d\]: d'aillmeurs, Thomas n'a pas découvert ça sur Hikaru
DiGigot [6k\]: faut pas prendre "tous" au sens littéral.
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;B[ol]C[Oresama [2k\]: arf
]
;W[nk]C[Pinguschaf [5d\]: huh
]
;B[pk]C[Pinguschaf [5d\]: interesting
]
;W[oj]
;B[pn]
;W[pm]
;B[qn]C[ftroiset [2d\]: curieux ; ça ne marche pas, si?
]
;W[qm]
;B[rn]C[bolbi [-\]: j'imagine que thomas avait lu ça
DiGigot [6k\]: oui l'un des deux a du mal lire ?
Nemerid [-\]: roln aime bien ce genre de combats
ftroiset [2d\]: blanc connecte, et après?
Novalys [2k\]: et après il doit siffler très fort 4 fois
Nemerid [-\]: c'est surtout l'aji dans le coin
Pinguschaf [5d\]: i think white is fine
DiGigot [6k\]: so why did b plays that ?
ftroiset [2d\]: de toute façon, blanc a pas le choix
Pinguschaf [5d\]: i dont know
Oresama [2k\]: il peut abandonner
Pinguschaf [5d\]: maybe he wated to get M8 sente + threats
Novalys [2k\]: c18 and r17 are golden ùpves
Novalys [2k\]: moves
ftroiset [2d\]: non, ça change pas grand choqse pour noir
Pinguschaf [5d\]: i dont see the following tesuji after p7
ftroiset [2d\]: un peu d'aji perdu, et encore
ftroiset [2d\]: well, s8 is a little biet annoying :-)
Cassis0 [5d\]: gives r2 sente? 
Nemerid [-\]: ca permet de faire réfléchir blanc et de gagner du sente
]
;W[qk]C[ftroiset [2d\]: oui, bien sûr
jSd [8k\]: comment il varentrer au centree?N£
isoparm [2k\]: uh oh.
isoparm [2k\]: r 8
]
;B[ql]
;W[rl]C[ftroiset [2d\]: now, black canssqueeze, so no aji
mope: ko
]
;B[rk]
;W[rm]
;B[qj]C[maxp73 [3d\]: wow
DiGigot [6k\]: seki ?
maxp73 [3d\]: comment ca peut etre seki?
AyoLogie: ...
ftroiset [2d\]: never
isoparm [2k\]: p 7
FraTeoX [4k\]: lol 
FraTeoX [4k\]: ça peut pa
Nemerid [-\]: blanc s'est fait avoir
ftroiset [2d\]: mais q12 risque d'apparaître
mope: Ilya has not 
Oresama [2k\]: fini
nolimits [2d\]: blanc est mal barré
mope: s2
FraTeoX [4k\]: pè ?
ftroiset [2d\]: pardon???
mope: rj
FraTeoX [4k\]: p7
FraTeoX [4k\]: ?
mope: ko
maxp73 [3d\]: noir est mort
derp [1k\]: s5?
kingstorm [?\]: oh
kingstorm [?\]: co nguoi vn ah
Lepenski [1k\]: b is dead
maxp73 [3d\]: P7
maxp73 [3d\]: or S5?
]
;W[om]C[FraTeoX [4k\]: hihi p7
FraTeoX [4k\]: j'avais raison
isoparm [2k\]: r 11
Lepenski [1k\]: Bq12
Kirigo: t7 ?
fab [-\]: no aji at all
derp [1k\]: t6?
oliolioli [6k\]: f6
ItsaBadDay [8k\]: what about time for each player ? eurogo ?
isoparm [2k\]: t6
derp [1k\]: seems ko to me, but I don't know
ftroiset [2d\]: t6 never works (O7, R11
kingstorm [?\]: o7
eclaireur [2k\]: nothing work for b
derp [1k\]: ? t7 o7 r8r11 t8 w dead
KWhite [8k\]: R11? B?
derp [1k\]: sorry t6 first
Lepenski [1k\]: t6 , t8
derp [1k\]: t6 t8 m8?
ftroiset [2d\]: t(-, O7, R9, R11, b dead
Lepenski [1k\]: Bt6, Wt8
Novalys [2k\]: c3
fab [-\]: Thomas became really strong ^^
derp [1k\]: t6 o7 r9 r11 t8 w dead
fab [-\]: white would never play O7, derp ^^
DiGigot [6k\]: t6 s5
fab [-\]: t6 t7 black dead
mope: black live withoutko on side, but should I?
derp [1k\]: ah, okay
mope: q12
fab [-\]: can black live on the side ? even with T9 sente, i don't see how ^^
KWhite [8k\]: How's R11?
KWhite [8k\]: make B live longer?
derp [1k\]: after t6 t7 then even t10 is sente
Nemerid [-\]: le soucis c'est qu'il y a des coups sente à l'exterieur et il va pouvoir fermer son centre un peu plus
mope: can be invaded in c3
Jadeite [?\]: t6 r11 works for W?
fab [-\]: no, jadeite
ftroiset [2d\]: ça, il a toujours pu
bistrogo [3d\]: Fab je crois que quelqu'un te parle en privé ;)
ftroiset [2d\]: ça, il a toujours pu
Cassis0 [5d\]: m8 
seolki [8d\]: overplay for w
seolki [8d\]: sorry by b
maxp73 [3d\]: ^^
DiGigot [6k\]: :) 
mope: black enough to win 
fujichan [1d\]: For me, black win the semeai
Nemerid [-\]: seolki, but black center is big no?
kingstorm [?\]: i think so
kingstorm [?\]: black win
fujichan [1d\]: with R11
fujichan [1d\]: ah
Cassis0 [5d\]: m8 then f7
Nemerid [-\]: fujichan, black is dead here
fujichan [1d\]: I d'ont see R6 ^
mope: q12
fujichan [1d\]: don't*
DiGigot [6k\]: la stupeur après "seolki [8d\]: overplay for w" :))
fujichan [1d\]: sorry ^^
fujichan [1d\]: ^^
Jadeite [?\]: fab, B t6  W r11 B?
Novalys [2k\]: b could get C18 or r3 now
Novalys [2k\]: c3 sorry
Novalys [2k\]: not R3
oliolioli [6k\]: ...
gghnh: black could just M8 in sente and then F7
Jadeite [?\]: m8 o7 r9 t9 
mope: t9 and q12
gghnh: now this opportunity is lost
jSd [8k\]: appelez moi dieu je vous en prie
mope: b live
ftroiset [2d\]: ? m8 is still sente
DiGigot [6k\]: dieu ne prie pas.
gghnh: but now is no aji
jSd [8k\]: Thomas se tape Dbarre xd
Kirigo: Si, Dieu qui prie chuck norris
ftroiset [2d\]: black is dead, but some small aji
kprist [1k\]: c'est bon jSd je suis ici
]
;B[sk]C[jSd [8k\]: omg
jSd [8k\]: il va prendrev 100mintes
ftroiset [2d\]: s5 forcé
Lepenski [1k\]: W t6
]
;W[sn]C[massilia [1d\]: i don't see how b can do something
mope: now b q12
massilia [1d\]: q12 works?
mope: y
]
;B[ll]C[ftroiset [2d\]: q12 dontv work yet : P12
]
;W[ro]C[Lepenski [1k\]: Ws5
]
;B[rg]C[ftroiset [2d\]: ?? R13, no?
mope: q12 better
Lepenski [1k\]: wS11
Lepenski [1k\]: Ws11
Kirigo: r11 
nouziller [2d?\]: b aliv
ftroiset [2d\]: How???
nolimits [2d\]: yeah s11 not good?
Lepenski [1k\]: r12
mope: ftroise, you dt see
ftroiset [2d\]: r12, then T11
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: time - white 1:01 black 1:32
massilia [1d\]: if white kill it it will cost him a lot, cause he isn't alive around
mope: ftroise, see offline
donzet [?\]: r11 kill black but it's a very big eye and white will die outside
]
;W[qh]C[globax [4d\]: r12-s12-s11
Lepenski [1k\]: s11, r1
seolki [8d\]: thought w might have made mistake
donzet [?\]: bad move
barakeel [1d\]: black dead
ftroiset [2d\]: I still dont see  b living
globax [4d\]: i think so
ftroiset [2d\]: anyway, it was my move :-)
ftroiset [2d\]: anyway, R12 was my move
Biquette07 [9k?\]: why bad move ?
donzet [?\]: white t11 make seki
mope: b live
mope: nj seki
]
;B[rh]C[globax [4d\]: s11+
mope: r12
Shock1989 [2d?\]: s11 don't work
ftroiset [2d\]: s11, as I said
Cassis0 [5d\]: r17+
ftroiset [2d\]: why?
globax [4d\]: s11-r11-s10-r9-p7+
mope: r17 good
seolki [8d\]: interesting moment, if w plays hane at s11, b cannot cutoff
mope: but b live
massilia [1d\]: R13 aji
veteran [1d\]: s14
massilia [1d\]: if we play your sequence globax
globax [4d\]: b dead
Shock1989 [2d?\]: b alive
bistrogo [3d\]: i think too
mope: bo
mope: no
mope: r13
bistrogo [3d\]: don't work
]
;W[si]C[globax [4d\]: why not s10?
Pingu007 [3d\]: s10? u mean s11?
mope: black mistake, it was necessary to start with q12 
seolki [8d\]: b is alive, w will get corner,, but b gets sente and plays at f7
bistrogo [3d\]: q12 was nothing
donzet [?\]: seki
ftroiset [2d\]: and s14 is stil trouble
Surcouf [-\]: seki....
veteran [1d\]: seki
ftroiset [2d\]: but white gfet the corner
Pingu007 [3d\]: why not w s11 instead of t11? it was not killing?
veteran [1d\]: true
Surcouf [1k?\]: seki gote?
]
;B[ri]C[seolki [8d\]: very good result for b
bistrogo [3d\]: yes
mope: seki sente
Nemerid [-\]: white has lost this game
bistrogo [3d\]: r15
bensenseii [-\]: NO
veteran [1d\]: t11 was wrong, s14 was better
bensenseii [-\]: Thomas can't lose !
bistrogo [3d\]: ^^
jSd [8k\]: baisez tous mes pieds
bistrogo [3d\]: il s'est planté
jSd [8k\]: je lol
jSd [8k\]: ils ont combien de temps?
bistrogo [3d\]: s11 marchait bien
veteran [1d\]: W has to live now
massilia [1d\]: S11 marchait pas  je crois^^
Pingu007 [3d\]: je vois pas comment n vivait
Pingu007 [3d\]: s11 r11 s10 r9 r13
Pingu007 [3d\]: je vouyais n mort mais bon
bensenseii [-\]: Bah
bensenseii [-\]: Il tue une partie
ftroiset [2d\]: q17
veteran [1d\]: r17 probably
bensenseii [-\]: S11 R13
bensenseii [-\]: Il sort
Pingu007 [3d\]: ah ok je comprends mieux alors
seolki [8d\]: but b plays at r13 after w plays at s11
bensenseii [-\]: Yes
seolki [8d\]: that result is also good for b
bensenseii [-\]: Yes
bensenseii [-\]: But Thomas wanted to kill all, I think
bensenseii [-\]: Now, He didn't kill anything
]
;W[sj]C[mope: tesu q12
bensenseii [-\]: Sente seki
bensenseii [-\]: And W has to live outside
jSd [8k\]: b+165.5
kkwett [2k\]: lol ES met blanc mort partout
maxp73 [3d\]: comme quoi les overplays ca paye
bensenseii [-\]: SE est nulle
bistrogo [3d\]: non faut savoir l'utiliser
seolki [8d\]: locally oki but b got very precious point m7, b's outside became perfect
bistrogo [3d\]: faut l'aider un petit peut
bistrogo [3d\]: peu*
ftroiset [2d\]: ko, maintenant
Luffyop [2k\]: s14 give seki
bistrogo [3d\]: ko?
bistrogo [3d\]: pourquoi?
bistrogo [3d\]: y'a pas ko
ftroiset [2d\]: not yet
mope: r11 sente
]
;B[oh]C[bistrogo [3d\]: je vois vraiment pas de ko ftroiset
Pinguschaf [5d\]: game is over
Pinguschaf [5d\]: black will get sente and take f7
]
;W[ph]
;B[rf]C[kkwett [2k\]: resign
Namaskar [1d\]: F7? b may kill w right side grp
]
;W[qe]
;B[pd]
;W[sf]C[veteran [1d\]: that's tough play
kkwett [2k\]: w not enough liberty and no eye
veteran [1d\]: by B
globax [4d\]: p14+
mope: cool!
bistrogo [3d\]: it kills
ftroiset [2d\]: b has no many liberties, either
yanor [4k?\]: Wouldn't it be urgent for w to play P14 to extand and have more liberties ?
DiGigot [6k\]: what means the "+" ?
globax [4d\]: win
DiGigot [6k\]: ok thx
bistrogo [3d\]: white back in the game
Pinguschaf [5d\]: i thought it was easy enough to just live in sente
mareks [3k\]: no time for w
massilia [1d\]: P14 kills by one lib if i am correct
SuperFrank [4k\]: p 14
SuperFrank [4k\]: worth a try
DERM [3k\]: ао
ftroiset [2d\]: no, the wall is complete and now b has enough territory
mareks [3k\]: if b T14 then seki => w no eye
Pinguschaf [5d\]: after p14 white cuts p15
globax [4d\]: p14-r17, w gains liberty in the corner?
Pinguschaf [5d\]: so p14 is not a shape i think
globax [4d\]: s18?
mope: b win semiai
bistrogo [3d\]: no
mope: p14
globax [4d\]: i thinkp14 enough for b anyway
Mukti [4d\]: if p14, S17 will be annoying
kkwett [2k\]: many way to do the semeai
wintogo [7d\]: o14
Mukti [4d\]: s18 I mean
bistrogo [3d\]: if p14 r17
pandu [8k\]: r17 schicho non ?
bistrogo [3d\]: non parce que ça permet la sortie en P13
donzet [?\]: allez thomas
]
;B[of]C[wintogo [7d\]: oh,
donzet [?\]: p15
Mukti [4d\]: S18
wintogo [7d\]: bad move
kkwett [2k\]: le prochain mouvement va être déterminant
Saimon [1d\]: even if w kills, w has not won yet.
globax [4d\]: r17
derp [1k\]: w doesn't have an eye, so does r17 matter?
wintogo [7d\]: p 15
mope: if black semiay lose, they will still win the game поиск
]
;W[oe]C[wintogo [7d\]: yes
Thumb [3k?\]: R17?
bistrogo [3d\]: you'll see derp
derp [1k\]: okay
globax [4d\]: ok
wintogo [7d\]: black shoul o 14
]
;B[ne]C[ftroiset [2d\]: p15,p13,,r17
globax [4d\]: exact
Cassis0 [5d\]: f7
]
;W[og]
;B[nf]C[yanor [4k?\]: f7 ?
globax [4d\]: r17 nyway for yose?
bistrogo [3d\]: o12
AurelienC [3d\]: f7 huge
yanor [4k?\]: yes but now ?
yanor [4k?\]: is it the good timing ?
KlerChazal [-\]: have to be sure about the semeai
AurelienC [3d\]: if b do it, w lose (still c3 )
globax [4d\]: o12 now
donzet [?\]: saint thomas priez pour vous
globax [4d\]: ^^
globax [4d\]: lu fred
donzet [?\]: allez thomaaaaaaas
ftroiset [2d\]: o12 looks better
wintogo [7d\]: black is bad
wintogo [7d\]: o 13
mope: seki
Denniskutl [3d\]: o13 looks like seki
bistrogo [3d\]: yes o13
Denniskutl [3d\]: o13 n13 
donzet [?\]: black q16 was too greedy
globax [4d\]: yes
AurelienC [3d\]: b may want the sente
mope: Black played a very talented 
donzet [?\]: o13 with no thinking
wintogo [7d\]: O 13, N 13
donzet [?\]: then let's think
wintogo [7d\]: then R 17
AurelienC [3d\]: n13 quite obvious wintogo.. ut what would you play as w ?
veteran [1d\]: o12 is also a move
AurelienC [3d\]: but
wintogo [7d\]: R 17
globax [4d\]: o13
wintogo [7d\]: black is bad
AurelienC [3d\]: r17 q17 r18 s18 ?
wintogo [7d\]: Q 17
wintogo [7d\]: R 18
wintogo [7d\]: S18
wintogo [7d\]: Q 18
Denniskutl [3d\]: r17 gives one more liberty, so b seems dead
wintogo [7d\]: P18
wintogo [7d\]: white can capture 
wintogo [7d\]: no
wintogo [7d\]: black can capture
wintogo [7d\]: white
wintogo [7d\]: oops
AurelienC [3d\]: ;)
xanman [?\]: If B closes center around F7, can W win even if captures?
wintogo [7d\]: white can capture black
Pinguschaf [5d\]: it doesnt matter, black wins the game anyway
Denniskutl [3d\]: even if w captures?
Pinguschaf [5d\]: i think so
Pinguschaf [5d\]: didnt count^^
wintogo [7d\]: O 13
Pinguschaf [5d\]: but getting the whole wall in sente and f7
wintogo [7d\]: O 14, then N 14
Pinguschaf [5d\]: cant really believe its not enough
wintogo [7d\]: then N 12
AurelienC [3d\]: +c3 pinguschaf ;)
kkwett [2k\]: thomas essaie de trouver un moyen de gagner ce combat sans perdre le sente ou en entrant dans le territoire noir .... dur a mon avis !
Pinguschaf [5d\]: no f7
Nemerid [-\]: black center is too big
Pinguschaf [5d\]: and white plays f2
Pinguschaf [5d\]: so c3 will be for white
Nemerid [-\]: fred, ce sera dur pour thomas d'avoir le sente 
pandu [8k\]: prise de tete quoi ...
Pinguschaf [5d\]: black might play c3 instead of f7 though...dunno which is bigger
AurelienC [3d\]: c3 aji will force w to lose sente or points so still, b can't lose
yanor [4k?\]: EurogoTV : could you tell us what are the clocks please ?
ftroiset [2d\]: w F7 , w isstill in the game
kkwett [2k\]: if white tenuki now and f7.  can he win the semeai ? 
Denniskutl [3d\]: i think r13 kill black now
Cassis0 [5d\]: if f7 now white lose by 1 the semeai 
kkwett [2k\]: sure ?
Denniskutl [3d\]: w r13 b o13 and both has 4 libs
jSd [8k\]: if b f7
jSd [8k\]: resign?
kkwett [2k\]: even with R17 sequence ?
Cassis0 [5d\]: maybe I miss a tesuji :) 
ftroiset [2d\]: S17
wintogo [7d\]: O 13  then N 13, N 12
yanor [4k?\]: EuroGoTV :: what is the time left for both players please 
jSd [8k\]: 18d
jSd [8k\]: 18d
wintogo [7d\]: white is ok
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: white 0:45 black 1:17
yanor [4k?\]: thx
wintogo [7d\]: black can not capture white
ftroiset [2d\]: yes, n12 is strong
yanor [4k?\]: w has some time left to find the solution (if there is any)
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: *white 0:33
yanor [4k?\]: a bit less time so...
kkwett [2k\]: la partie se joue maintenant, tant pis si il finit en blitz ...
kkwett [2k\]: il réfléchira sur le temps de l'autre ^^
SuperFrank [4k\]: w has more liberties
SuperFrank [4k\]: i suppose
SuperFrank [4k\]: if you add with w t17
Denniskutl [3d\]: indeed no need to count liberties, n12 works as wintogo pointed out
ftroiset [2d\]: yes
]
;W[ng]
;B[mg]C[kkwett [2k\]: f7 now
SuperFrank [4k\]: that will wait
ftroiset [2d\]: n12 first
SuperFrank [4k\]: i dont regard w as safe atm
ftroiset [2d\]: nor only n12 works, but it can be played in sente, the f7
donzet [?\]: wr13 is a sure way to win semai
kkwett [2k\]: n12 O12 Q13 N11 ????
kkwett [2k\]: i prefer f7 now 
Denniskutl [3d\]: can w tenuki now?
ftroiset [2d\]: p16
]
;W[mh]C[kkwett [2k\]: he has to
kkwett [2k\]: if black take sente, game over
ftroiset [2d\]: see?
tapir [1d?\]: n12 is sacrifice to gain sente?
Denniskutl [3d\]: o12 q13 n14 m13 o16 
ftroiset [2d\]: not, itseven better
Pinguschaf [5d\]: this is good
Pinguschaf [5d\]: so b really should have just lived on the right side
donzet [?\]: white is safe
Timeless [17k\]: can anyone explain to me why o7  is bad for white?
drauglir [2d\]: how w shoud continue if b o12 and then q13 n11 
GoShinobi [-\]: wouldnt it be game over if black just have made life 
Pinguschaf [5d\]: yes, i think so
Pinguschaf [5d\]: but he wanted to win stylish^^
tapir [1d?\]: well this is too much for me. i can't read this fight.
Pinguschaf [5d\]: this is the punishment
ItsaBadDay [8k\]: and what makes this game still interesting
]
;B[nh]
;W[pg]C[Nemerid [-\]: black is just playing O12 and it is ok
]
;B[lg]C[Timeless [17k\]: m12 
Timeless [17k\]: oh ok
Nemerid [-\]: and he didn't let me finish my sentence :)
]
;W[mi]C[kkwett [2k\]: N11 white then black F7 
Nemerid [-\]: this is game over
]
;B[mj]
;W[nj]
;B[li]
;W[oi]
;B[nh]C[Timeless [17k\]: if white does o7 wouldn't o7 r9 t7 t8 t5 be safe?
kkwett [2k\]: w f7 now
massilia [1d\]: stop saying it's over everybody told it 50 moves ago and they are still plying
kkwett [2k\]: last chance
Pinguschaf [5d\]: oh
Pinguschaf [5d\]: this way its still ok for black maybe
Pinguschaf [5d\]: but he lost some points
Nemerid [-\]: massilia, indeed, but the situation hasn't changed
kkwett [2k\]: w invade ....
Nilatarion [2d\]: s18
]
;W[rb]C[Pinguschaf [5d\]: oh actually the semeai itself is still kinda dangerous
Nemerid [-\]: fred, there no invasion point
massilia [1d\]: nice move
veteran [1d\]: good call
massilia [1d\]: can w play F7 now?
bistrogo [3d\]: F7 bigger than the corner
]
;B[qb]
;W[sc]
;B[qc]C[massilia [1d\]: i mean now^^
bistrogo [3d\]: white can play now
kkwett [2k\]: he has to
bistrogo [3d\]: and the game seems o be favorable to him
bistrogo [3d\]: to*
Timeless [17k\]: s19  creates eye right?
bistrogo [3d\]: no
Timeless [17k\]: I see
massilia [1d\]: s19 t18
Timeless [17k\]: s19 r19 m12 t18 t19 t18  ok just didn't notice
Timeless [17k\]: yeah
Timeless [17k\]: s19 t18 ok
Timeless [17k\]: shorter
Homme [6d\]: F7!
bistrogo [3d\]: go go thomas!!!
Timeless [17k\]: and better
ftroiset [2d\]: t18 is good to win the semeai
Timeless [17k\]: yeah
bistrogo [3d\]: ça change pas le nombre de liberté
kkwett [2k\]: t 18 useless
bistrogo [3d\]: ça perd un peu de point c'est tou
ben0 [5d\]: j'en suis moins sur ca
bistrogo [3d\]: au pire c'est seki
massilia [1d\]: seki ce serait cata
bistrogo [3d\]: de toute façon faut jouer f7
bistrogo [3d\]: faut tenter sa chance
KlerChazal [-\]: f7 is bigger than anything else but seki
Santigre [2k\]: needing to take at R5 makes it seki isn't it?
veteran [1d\]: r11 is first
veteran [1d\]: I tthink
kkwett [2k\]: yes
Denniskutl [3d\]: w can kill now, otherwise seki
kgsty18 [3k\]: You have to kill the 3 B stones first
kkwett [2k\]: no R11 first
Denniskutl [3d\]: wait under the intention of w killng , b has 6 libs, w has 7
veteran [1d\]: t18 first makes sense
Denniskutl [3d\]: so w can kill even if tenuki?
derp [1k\]: I see ko anyway
fatihsulak [2d\]: t18 makes ko? 
ftroiset [2d\]: looks like ko at T16, actually
]
;W[se]C[kkwett [2k\]: no
bistrogo [3d\]: noir mène de 20 pts si blanc tu et noir f7
kkwett [2k\]: black F7 now ..
massilia [1d\]: hmm je suis pas d'accord
massilia [1d\]: il  a pas 20 points
Santigre [2k\]: f7 for the win ?
massilia [1d\]: 10 peut etre et il reste du gros yose
]
;B[lh]C[Denniskutl [3d\]: now tenuki for sure
]
;W[ni]C[Denniskutl [3d\]: ?
Santigre [2k\]: wow!
Santigre [2k\]: so small ><
OsoAgonar [-\]: ....
ItsaBadDay [8k\]: Fbf7 now
Shock1989 [2d?\]: lol
AurelienC [3d\]: b would not play m12 if it was not sente...
OsoAgonar [-\]: small? ¬¬ he needs an eye
bistrogo [3d\]: he need it to kill
derp [1k\]: if b tenuki, w can kill outright I think
Santigre [2k\]: still kills with no eye doesn't it?
Nemerid [-\]: impossible to tenuki
derp [1k\]: no, needs eye
bistrogo [3d\]: no
OsoAgonar [-\]: no
bistrogo [3d\]: need eye
Biquette07 [9k?\]: What do you think about Fred ?
OsoAgonar [-\]: yes
OsoAgonar [-\]: without eye he will colapse
donzet [?\]: thomas forget to win
bistrogo [3d\]: allez y va trouvé un tesuji d'invasion
Nemerid [-\]: bistrogo, il n'y a pas de miracles, il n'a pas le sente et quand c'est du territoire, c'est du territoire
Mousqueton [2d\]: S10?
bistrogo [3d\]: ^^ nemerid
OsoAgonar [-\]: seems seki to me
bistrogo [3d\]: si tu prend au sérieu tout ce que je dis^^
Nemerid [-\]: bistrogo, oui parce que ça m'énerve qu'il perde :)
Denniskutl [3d\]: if b doesnt play now, w kills
bistrogo [3d\]: oui moi aussi, je me réfugie dans l'ironie du coup
Mousqueton [2d\]: ou T18 ? lol
Lepenski [1k\]: c3
seolki [8d\]: seki is unreasonable result for w t.t
DERM [3k\]: ОРЛ
Denniskutl [3d\]: wait a minute, this is ing rules, so w should seki no?
]
;B[fm]C[OsoAgonar [-\]: tenuki? :S
LeFourBe [5d?\]: b just dead
Lepenski [1k\]: wf2
tapir [1d?\]: can white f6?
AurelienC [3d\]: w can do everything he want
OsoAgonar [-\]: if b play S19 is seki, dosnt it?
bistrogo [3d\]: ^^
bistrogo [3d\]: no oso
donzet [?\]: allez thomaaas
tapir [1d?\]: sankyu aurelien quite the answer i expected... :(
bistrogo [3d\]: b dead
AurelienC [3d\]: you're welcome
derp [1k\]: seems b wins anyway
Lepenski [1k\]: no seki b19
AurelienC [3d\]: f2 would be the common move imo but it's not enough imo
AurelienC [3d\]: let's overplay :
AurelienC [3d\]: !
derp [1k\]: and if w doesn't capture now, b can always make ko, so has gained
Denniskutl [3d\]: ko how?
derp [1k\]: s19, etc.
seolki [8d\]: w can kill b now
yanor [4k?\]: And the famous F7 move :)
Denniskutl [3d\]: s19 makes seki
OsoAgonar [-\]: i said so
OsoAgonar [-\]: people ignored me
OsoAgonar [-\]: ¬¬
]
;W[fn]C[derp [1k\]: s19 makes seki or ko
Mousqueton [2d\]: t18 better than S19, no ?
bistrogo [3d\]: O-o
OsoAgonar [-\]: yes is seki or ko
OsoAgonar [-\]: probably seki :D
derp [1k\]: if b lives there, then wins, so I thought w would have to make ko
bistrogo [3d\]: let's trick
donzet [?\]: for me black group is dead without need to had move, white may capture s19 only
]
;B[gn]C[bistrogo [3d\]: g7
donzet [?\]: black
seolki [8d\]: i will show that local result
]
;W[fl]C[OsoAgonar [-\]: thanks :D
]
;B[el]
;W[em]
;B[gm]C[kkwett [2k\]: E10 ?
]
;W[ej]
;B[dj]
;W[dk]
;B[fk]C[AurelienC [3d\]: e14 
bistrogo [3d\]: déjà faire l'enchainement avant
]
;W[fj]
;B[gk]
;W[ef]
;B[eh]C[Nilatarion [2d\]: f14
Pinguschaf [5d\]: w should have cut at e12
massilia [1d\]: F14 ko?
Pinguschaf [5d\]: better yose that way
kkwett [2k\]: more aji too
]
;W[df]
;B[ff]
;W[bf]C[ftroiset [2d\]: il récupère le coin
OsoAgonar [-\]: still S19 alñskdjfñalskdjfañlsdkjfañlsdkjfañlsdkjfasñldjkfa
kkwett [2k\]: sauf si noir connecte 
ftroiset [2d\]: siNoir connecte, e15
sansan3 [4k\]: how much do they have left?
sansan3 [4k\]: how much time do they have left
]
;B[fc]C[AurelienC [3d\]: 1 more time ;)
]
;W[fb]C[kkwett [2k\]: E17 E 18 B16
yanor [4k?\]: EuroGoTV : time please
wintogo [7d\]: white is bad
ben0 [5d\]: ...
]
;B[cm]C[kkwett [2k\]: F16
]
;W[dm]
;B[cq]C[donzet [?\]: greedy black
ftroiset [2d\]: then G16
Pinguschaf [5d\]: indeed
donzet [?\]: w e2 is missing
donzet [?\]: it was better insted b14
yanor [4k?\]: Yes. It will be very difficlut now for white to win this game (almost impossible I would say)
ftroiset [2d\]: is d2 oissible?
bistrogo [3d\]: d2 b4
]
;W[cp]
;B[er]C[ftroiset [2d\]: then b5 kills, no?
]
;W[gd]
;B[ee]C[tapir [1d?\]: why not e15 first?
bistrogo [3d\]: b( c2
]
;W[ge]C[bistrogo [3d\]: b5 c2*
]
;B[hf]C[Oresama [2k\]: n 18 after
pandu [8k\]: il se passe quoi à droite finalement ?
globax [4d\]: c16 big
rvrey [7k\]: blanc gagne^^^
maxp73 [3d\]: M18?
pandu [8k\]: sûr ??
YeongHaKo [?\]: noir est mort
tonynogo [6k?\]: oui mais beaucoup de menace de ko pour noir
donzet [?\]: ouch faut que j'aille au kine! allez thomas
pandu [8k\]: super alors ^^
yanor [4k?\]: t'es blessé Fred ?
kkwett [2k\]: non noir a quand même l'avantage
donzet [?\]: la tendinite du computer
]
;W[cd]
;B[ce]C[pandu [8k\]: beuh :-(
yanor [4k?\]: très mauvais ça...
YeongHaKo [?\]: ouch faut que j'aille manger une pomme
pandu [8k\]: le groupe noir est mort ou c seki ?
maxp73 [3d\]: ya ko
]
;W[ch]C[Mukti [4d\]: It looks like ko to me if b starts at S19...
yanor [4k?\]: tu ferais mieux de faire des films :)
]
;B[gf]
;W[bd]C[Pinguschaf [5d\]: b3
Mukti [4d\]: But even if w kills it b has a big lead
]
;B[bq]C[Nemerid [-\]: b3 était trop gros
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: white in BY
]
;W[mc]
;B[sb]C[Mukti [4d\]: b has 110, assuming whire kills unconditionally he has 90+
Mukti [4d\]: unsurmountable
]
;W[sa]
;B[qa]C[wintogo [7d\]: black is good
]
;W[nc]C[maxp73 [3d\]: uh
]
;B[ra]C[wintogo [7d\]: the black group is still alive
Nemerid [-\]: ouch big w mistake
Mukti [4d\]: w could connect and then placement
wintogo [7d\]: yes
Mukti [4d\]: prob. he is looking for some trick to pull off
]
;W[bp]
;B[ap]
;W[ao]
;B[aq]C[seolki [8d\]: if w lost e14 was lossing move
]
;W[co]C[Pinguschaf [5d\]: cut was better, right?
]
;B[ec]
;W[eb]C[Mukti [4d\]: w is def. lost
]
;B[be]
;W[ae]
;B[ld]
;W[lb]C[Pinguschaf [5d\]: but i think w would have lost anyway
seolki [8d\]: no w could won very easily
kkwett [2k\]: still ko 
Mukti [4d\]: really?
]
;B[pr]C[Mukti [4d\]: how?
rikiyu [1k\]: how?
Mukti [4d\]: w is so far behind
kkwett [2k\]: T16 ?
seolki [8d\]: w could kill b's group
Mousqueton [2d\]: isn t it time for white s10 ?
Pinguschaf [5d\]: which one?
Mukti [4d\]: with e14?
]
;W[fo]
;B[go]C[Pinguschaf [5d\]: on the right?
]
;W[ep]
;B[dq]C[seolki [8d\]: but not now
Pinguschaf [5d\]: i thought even then its not enough
wintogo [7d\]: black  is alive
Mukti [4d\]: even if all those stone sdie without compensation b is far ahead
seolki [8d\]: i guess thoma think right side is seki
]
;W[ob]
;B[sb]C[seolki [8d\]: if thought actuall game w lost 2o point than usuall
jutsu: who wins?
seolki [8d\]: even
kkwett [2k\]: b
jutsu: right side is whites?
]
;W[qi]
;B[sd]C[tonynogo [6k?\]: ko
seolki [8d\]: watch my clon game
]
;W[sg]
;B[sh]C[wintogo [7d\]: oh, white is terrible
]
;W[nm]
;B[qk]
;W[sc]
;B[rj]C[wintogo [7d\]: white is terrible
yanor [4k?\]: aie aie aie
EuroGoTV3 [-\]: white has resigned
yanor [4k?\]: yeap 
tomcat [3k?\]: ))
kkwett [2k\]: ok
pandu [8k\]: argghhhh
globax [4d\]: thx eurogo tv3
derp [1k\]: thanks
nuBO [2k\]: no threat for r13 t16 
lepeksiy [-\]: nice game by roln
mope: Молодец Илья
mope: красивая партия
seolki [8d\]: but he did very well
Janan [-\]: thanks eurogo
uTalua [17k\]: А зачем он s10 походил?
mope: я говорил, что Илья выиграет не менее 20 очков
mope: эта группа ему не нужна
mope: даже если он ее отдает он выигрывает не менее 10 очков, при сэки 30
mope: а так > 100
])
