(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[20/600 Canadian]
PW[Ngoc-Trang Cao]PB[Manuela Marz]WR[2k]BR[4d]DT[2008-09-12]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[ManusDei [19k\]: you are still offair?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: the game will start in a few seconds
ManusDei [19k\]: ok, thank you
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;B[dc]C[cherisse [2k\]: 2k vs 4d?
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;W[dp]
;B[qd]
;W[pp]
;B[qn]
;W[pk]
;B[on]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Hello! everybody, My name is Seolki
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;W[np]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: from now on I will comment this game
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: Im 7dan and living in Belrin
Vogel [1d\]: great! :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thx
eurogotv [-\]: hi!!!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: I know both of them players,
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: they both are quite strong,,
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so i expect they will show us nice game
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(;B[nk]C[eurogotv [-\]: which room?
ExplO [2d\]: can you ask an admin to put a game on top?
ManusDei [19k\]: its really 2k vs 4d?
eurogotv [-\]: i can but i must now which room
ExplO [2d\]: it's a shame there isn't more people watching
cherisse [2k\]: hi seolki :-D
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: she is offcicaly 2k
cherisse [2k\]: hmm there will be
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but actually i played against this year,, and she is stronger than 2k
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: im preetty sure
ManusDei [19k\]: ok
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hi
cherisse [2k\]: well first, you gotta announce that girls are playing in this board...
eurogotv [-\]: WHICH ROOM THIS IS IN!!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: last move is very agreesive i think
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;W[od]C[ExplO [2d\]: eurogotv it's englishgameroom
eurogotv [-\]: Seul-ki which room on KGS this game is in
eurogotv [-\]: ok
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;B[pg]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: manuela is geaman women champion for long time i guess
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: <and,, Ngoc-Trang Cao, she lives in France
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;W[oi]C[petroushka [7k\]: can i watch this broadcasting anywhere?
Leeroy [1d\]: hmm
petroushka [7k\]: video
Philosophy [2k?\]: give me site where i can watch
Leeroy [1d\]: daniel trinks will be champion now i think
Leeroy [1d\]: ^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: orginally from betnam
arapbaci [3k\]: leeroy:) nice nick, if u r a wow player
Groningen [4k\]: is the tenuki at p16 normal ?
Javaness [-\]: vietnam
ZLO [3k?\]: vietnam?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i dont know excatly who is stonger
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;B[qi]C[eurogotv [-\]: camera is not working?
Leeroy [1d\]: ofc i play wow
Leeroy [1d\]: :P
eurogotv [-\]: or not correctly selected
Leeroy [1d\]: hmm
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes vietnam sorry ^^
Leeroy [1d\]: i think daniela i stronger
aron666 [7k\]: ca ma tt l air d etre un massacre
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: anyway she is not here so she is strongeswt women playes in <Germany
KoReNJe [5d?\]: poor 2k
KoReNJe [5d?\]: no chance :p
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i dont think so
Javaness [-\]: how to play for white now?
Wichmaster [5d\]: r12
twintom [6k\]: Manja seems to be the favorite for this tournament
Leeroy [1d\]: probably
KoReNJe [5d?\]: eurogotv1, are both good looking?
Leeroy [1d\]: ^^
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: maybe she will get few chance i guess
twintom [6k\]: MAnja is :-)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ^^
a6m5a [?\]: what about n12 ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: can u see them?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: or not?
cherisse [2k\]: anybody with a magic hat / fan ?
snowman [-\]: not
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this not
twintom [6k\]: no can´t see them
lwhite [5d\]: is the final match?
twintom [6k\]: tv is offline
lwhite [5d\]: this?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: im wearing lunck hat^^
eurogotv [-\]: no, first round
lwhite [5d\]: ic
Pacman1 [4k\]: why did white let that happen
Korea4K [2d\]: oh 2k vs 4dan
lwhite [5d\]: only 2 players?
gosta [4k\]: w should prevent cut, but gets heavy
Korea4K [2d\]: ^^
lwhite [5d\]: how many woman play in this tournament?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: anyway now, b's shape is not so ogood
Cobja [1d\]: how many woen are truely european?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: around 12
aitkensam [4d\]: b is ok
eviiL [4d\]: where is this tournament ?
twintom [6k\]: 19
Eucaryote [7k?\]: O13 ?
cherisse [2k\]: hmm i thought b was doing ok
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: koblenz in Germany
KoReNJe [5d?\]: no cameras there?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: really beautiful town,,
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i love here
meuns [4k\]: Is 2k EGF strong ?
KoReNJe [5d?\]: ?
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(;W[qc]C[flatchest [1d\]: about kgs 3d
eviiL [4d\]: i should have gone there <.<
tuerda [1d\]: 2k egf is about 2k kgs
Ten [7d\]: Who's the player with the highest ranking in the tournament?
Leeroy [1d\]: Oo
Leeroy [1d\]: oO
Leeroy [1d\]: OO
aitkensam [4d\]: about 2k kgs aswell
sheeryjay [2k\]: though can be pretty well 1d as well
lwhite [5d\]: is there a website?
snowman [-\]: natalia kovaleva 5 dan
cherisse [2k\]: same eh
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry i dont know exaclty
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;B[rc]
;W[pc]C[Pacman1 [4k\]: its called "go"
Korea4K [2d\]: almost moves r new
eurogotv [-\]: first round European Women Go Championship 2008
Leeroy [1d\]: this is to good for b
SoulMighty [-\]: agreed
aitkensam [4d\]: b should take sente and cut
flush [4d\]: who is the player with the highest cup size in the tournament?
tuerda [1d\]: Q10 is killer cut
eurogotv [-\]: this should be the eventname under rules Seul-ki
KoReNJe [5d?\]: who is eurogotv1 ?
XY0908 [-\]: Thanks Pacman1 and eurogotv.
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;B[re]C[Iceborg [5k\]: many innocents were burned on the stake svgo
Chrom [3k\]: first: he is a she
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(;W[qh]C[snowman [-\]: flush wins the worst kibitz prize
vargsvans [2d?\]: keep sexism to a minimum, thank you...
Pacman1 [4k\]: KO
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i think this not  bad streatgy
Lacour [5d\]: g
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;B[ph]
;W[pi]C[gosta [4k\]: so this is real game
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: what do u mean Harry_
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: u want move the camera?
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;B[qj]C[aitkensam [4d\]: its not on :-)
flatchest [1d\]: we cant see tv <<
SoulMighty [-\]: ???
Bingo33 [3k\]: theres tv?! where XD
zarta [11k\]: tv1 is offline :(
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ok i will ask  some person
petroushka [7k\]: tv is all offline
eurogotv [-\]: pls
Leeroy [1d\]: stay there and reort the game
flush [4d\]: g'
Leeroy [1d\]: zomg
Leeroy [1d\]: ^^
Bingo33 [3k\]: tv on which site?
flatchest [1d\]: lol
ManusDei [19k\]: i hear your keyboard-klicks on tv1
aitkensam [4d\]: www.eurogotv.com
KoReNJe [5d?\]: they cenzor the girlz :p
petroushka [7k\]: http://www.eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&log=live ?
meditation [1d\]: what is this match?
Bingo33 [3k\]: thx
Bingo33 [3k\]: hopefully its more colorful on tv
petroushka [7k\]: camera position not so good
tuerda [1d\]: not all black and white stones?
tuerda [1d\]: also purple and green?
SoulMighty [-\]: ohhh why all offline....
KoReNJe [5d?\]: cleavage
flush [4d\]: cool
twintom [6k\]: Korenje behave :-)
about2gup: lol white has no chance
cherisse [2k\]: lol dans fail
snowman [-\]: didn't they play the bamboo already
tuerda [1d\]: can we get some admin to come and stop the sexism
about2gup: sexism is a real part of this world
Iceborg [5k\]: are ladies videos for available for vip-members ? 
about2gup: dont deny it
twintom [6k\]: this is not sexism
about2gup: plus....do ladies even play this game?
KoReNJe [5d?\]: :)
NateC [1d\]: That doesn't mean we have to tolerate them, about2gup
twintom [6k\]: only pre puberty fun
Javaness [-\]: No trolling at all please
Pacman1 [4k\]: yes they
KoReNJe [5d?\]: r10 good move
cherisse [2k\]: at least keep the chat related to the game?
Pacman1 [4k\]: do i met my last girl playing go !
eurogotv [-\]: now only sound again
Pacman1 [4k\]: ok java
about2gup: white will bamboo and black will kakari
about2gup: left side
Groningen [4k\]: the bamboo looks like the only move
Iceborg [5k\]: I asked a serious question to EuroGoTV :(
eurogotv [-\]: in the UStream.tv window you should select the camera
svgo [3k\]: speech nazis are so easy too troll, pretty please
Pacman1 [4k\]: what re u talking about svgo ??
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(;W[ok])
(;W[qk]
;B[rh]
;W[ok]
;B[nm]C[about2gup: lol black is pplanning for a huge kill
petroushka [7k\]: EuroGoTV1...where the video?all ofline : (
snowman [-\]: ah, eurogotv1 concentrates
flush [4d\]: feminists have been wrong all this time
eurogotv [-\]: just close the window and start again
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry, wait a moment
about2gup: borat for president
Hobbesian [1k\]: all offline for me too
tuerda [1d\]: w stones not happy
eurogotv [-\]: for me too
flatchest [1d\]: stones? happy?
flatchest [1d\]: lol
Groningen [4k\]: how many vips are on right now ?
eurogotv [-\]: 9
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;W[lc]
;B[mi]C[SoulMighty [-\]: O-10
play234 [6d?\]: w already in big trouble
gosta [4k\]: sacrifice w stones ;)
HyeJin [4d\]: is this game broadcasted?
SoulMighty [-\]: wait nvm bad play
Nemerid [-\]: w likes fight :)
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;W[nh]C[Eucaryote [7k?\]: Pourquoi n'a-t-elle pas voulu sortir plus tôt ?
Groningen [4k\]: another keima is good enough here
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;B[nf]C[eurogotv [-\]: Seul-ki please respond to my personal message; i can help you to make the tv broadcast
snowman [-\]: it's not too much trouble yet
aitkensam [4d\]: w is not the end of the world
aitkensam [4d\]: 1 weak group is ok
rome [4d\]: 1k vs 2k?
rome [4d\]: 1k vs 4d I mean
rome [4d\]: ?
rome [4d\]: 2k....
HyeJin [4d\]: it seems gotv doesnt work
Nemerid [-\]: this time, there is no webcam isn't it ?
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;W[mg]C[eurogotv [-\]: my TV station works, but in Koblenz something is not done correctly!
snowman [-\]: maybe a thunderstorm
eurogotv [-\]: lol
Nemerid [-\]: what a pity
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;B[nd]C[snowman [-\]: this motare just doesn't work
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;W[nc]
;B[md]C[Iceborg [5k\]: make this broadcast available for vips only and you get 1000% business increase ;)
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;W[mc]C[eurogotv [-\]: yes, i know
eurogotv [-\]: but thats not the plan
kago [1d\]: white's kgs's nick is nyoshi
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;B[ki]
;W[mf]C[Pingu007 [3d\]: oh no tv ? :(
Groningen [4k\]: this sequence more or less proves that o14 was the wrong direction of play
eurogotv [-\]: :-(
iceey [2d?\]: who are they?
Nemerid [-\]: it is her nick in real life too :)
]
;B[ce]C[Lynx [2d\]: b doesn't feel 6 stones stronger than w
aitkensam [4d\]: maybe cos 2k - 4d is 5 stones :-)
lucky777 [2d\]: manja : *du sollst nicht töten*
lucky777 [2d\]: lol
xio [11k\]: nyoshi is 2d?
Lynx [2d\]: b doesn't even feel 5 stone stronger than w
iceey [2d?\]: who are they
snowman [-\]: l3 is advisable
HyeJin [4d\]: what is w's nationality?
Nemerid [-\]: Black has points and M3 is always a good point to attack
Swordfish8 [6d\]: what is this tournement?
ManusDei [19k\]: vietnam
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;W[hc]C[DanielTom [3k\]: strange
HyeJin [4d\]: thx
aitkensam [4d\]: M3?
scurge [4d\]: wuropean woman's championship 
DanielTom [3k\]: m3 seems a good attack now
erikk [-\]: any comments from seolki?
ManusDei [19k\]: is this still a variation?
snowman [-\]: yes
Ulath [5k\]: yep k3 looked better than h17
Eucaryote [7k?\]: R9 n'a encore aucun oeil ...
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;B[lq]C[Ulath [5k\]: k3, B j17 then c10
kago [1d\]: this game is too good and ez for black
snowman [-\]: game over, man
DanielTom [3k\]: ^__^ 
snowman [-\]: oh, sorry
DanielTom [3k\]: resigne? =D
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;W[lp]
;B[kp]
;W[mq]
;B[lo]
;W[mp]C[Nemerid [-\]: seems a little soon to resign, don't you think ?
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;B[lr]C[meuns [4k\]: w is dying
Ulath [5k\]: g3 ?
Iceborg [5k\]: I like such games - I learn how to chase without too much killer instinct 
Cuda [?\]: Let them observers resign all they want
Ulath [5k\]: g3 and if B r3, r4 then q3 then cut at L5
Ulath [5k\]: ^^
HyeJin [4d\]: there should be a live broadcasting women championship :)
ayr [4k\]: is this a teaching game or something?
gosta [4k\]: how to chase wihout killer instinct ;)
Nemerid [-\]: no... ayr
ayr [4k\]: so then?
ayr [4k\]: why 4d vs 2k
Eoan [2k\]: 2k giving the teaching of course
ayr [4k\]: with 5d black
eurogotv [-\]: first round
ayr [4k\]: ah
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;W[rp]
;B[mr]
;W[oq]C[septa [-\]: Turnament ayr :)
Negi1 [4d\]: i was 2k also in my last tournament and got a 4d opponent on the third round
ayr [4k\]: but there are variations in my copied game as well... ??
Swordfish8 [6d\]: white was leading untill this horrible corner sequence
Swordfish8 [6d\]: ~_~
gosta [4k\]: nicely shut in
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;B[fq]C[Ulath [5k\]: now f3
Ulath [5k\]: and then B m16
uyfgkf [?\]: b ahead
Swordfish8 [6d\]: m16 is..
Swordfish8 [6d\]: bad
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;W[cn]C[KimSun [1d\]: w 2 kyu?
aitkensam [4d\]: m16 too much
ayr [4k\]: what's better sword?
Swordfish8 [6d\]: nothing
KimSun [1d\]: w strong?
Vogel [1d\]: lol
Swordfish8 [6d\]: everything there is horrible, so dont play anything
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;B[dr]C[ayr [4k\]: w is vietnamese i think
Swordfish8 [6d\]: o16 n16 really really bad shape
Nemerid [-\]: w is french
aitkensam [4d\]: if i was b. I would have apprached other way in this corner
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: White is from France, Black from Germany
play234 [6d?\]: i wouldn't
Swordfish8 [6d\]: i think i would too aitkensam
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;W[ko]C[Ulath [5k\]: a little too late for cutting, no ? =/
Ulath [5k\]: k4
aitkensam [4d\]: cut is never bad :-p
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;B[jp]C[fab [4d\]: I would have approached at F3 as in the game, first to support my L4 stones, and second since C15 is low
gosta [4k\]: b looks redy for cut
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;W[kn]C[DanielTom [3k\]: Cut first, Think later
play234 [6d?\]: where is white going with this? :S
aitkensam [4d\]: i dont care much for L4 stones
ayr [4k\]: but left side is bigger fab
dewill5 [16k\]: The players names pretty much tell u that ones French and the other one is german
Nemerid [-\]: yes but this fight look a little hard for w. W has to play actively now
aitkensam [4d\]: b played N2, so they are strong
fab [4d\]: why would you play C6, swordfish ?
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;B[cl]
;W[cq]C[aitkensam [4d\]: left side was longer
ayr [4k\]: actually dewill, w has a vietnamese name
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;B[cr]
;W[br]C[Swordfish8 [6d\]: white should harras center group
meuns [4k\]: the game is done
aitkensam [4d\]: J11 for white :-)
meuns [4k\]: lol
Swordfish8 [6d\]: this black is not very strong
adiconamel: difficult situation for w
Eucaryote [7k?\]: Noir semble bien plus extendu que blanc.
meuns [4k\]: no needs for b
Nemerid [-\]: ayr : you are right, but she is french :)
Ulath [5k\]: so Cao Ngoc-Trang sounds french ? funny =)
ayr [4k\]: :)
play234 [6d?\]: no need for b to play spectacular when he's leading
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;B[bp]C[meuns [4k\]: i agree
rome [4d\]: she :D
Javaness [-\]: naughty
adiconamel: are french peaple speacial ?
play234 [6d?\]: oh, right
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: oh!! good stuff for study
Cobja [1d\]: ngoc trang cao seems very european after all
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: IM come back now
AngLHeart [-\]: killl
fetagaia [2k\]: Has b read javaness article?
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;W[bo]C[SoulMighty [-\]: u knoe... i have met some people that if u let them capture a few stones in the begingin they play realy bad later on
snowman [-\]: i don't like this way of broadcast
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: actaully this move doesnt work
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;B[bq]C[meuns [4k\]: not a common sequence ?
yithril [2d\]: well if he's vietnamese being french isn't far fetched...
Swordfish8 [6d\]: no ladder?=X
Swordfish8 [6d\]: white losses this way
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: she didit play yet
barbatruc [4k\]: c'est quoi ou qui nyoshi ?  
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;W[ar]C[Ulath [5k\]: Cobja : can be european or french or anywhere, of course, but just doesn't sound like usual french names, obviously ^^
ayr [4k\]: nope not at all yith
Naso [9k\]: i ve a friend with a similar name and she has ties with vietnam
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but  she might play here
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;B[cp]
;W[dq]C[lwhite [5d\]: black mad mistake
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;B[do]C[septa [-\]: Trade?
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;W[ep]C[Swordfish8 [6d\]: who is commenting?
aitkensam [4d\]: seol ki hong maybe?
lwhite [5d\]: white is ok
Dugong [2k\]: this is entertaining
Swordfish8 [6d\]: e5 now
meuns [4k\]: coooool
adiconamel: where???
Naso [9k\]: eurogo made a mistake *g ?
adiconamel: when
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this is the game now
ayr [4k\]: now
Naso [9k\]: ah ok
Naso [9k\]: !
Nemerid [-\]: ok thanks
Nemerid [-\]: go nyoshi !!
Neufx9 [6d\]: *nyoshi, nyoshi !* :-)
Kumoriha [-\]: Is the stream online?
Neufx9 [6d\]: (c'est thomas marc ^^)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes as my memory,, her name is just nyoshi^^
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(;B[eo]C[gimmemore: kyu games are always entertaining
vargsvans [2d?\]: not actual game, people
Swordfish8 [6d\]: no this is not the game its someone commenting
toler [19k\]: a big one.
Nemerid [-\]: barbatruc : nyoshi, c'est blanc 
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;W[fp]C[Javaness [-\]: seul ki hong 7dan is commenting for us
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;B[eq]C[SoulMighty [-\]: oh ok
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this is not a game
meuns [4k\]: the ladder
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes,, depends on ladder actually
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: then noe good for b
shika12 [-\]: exactly
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: because of this
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: she forgot 1 exchange
Chrom [3k\]: we never know, if it is a variation, a comment or the real game?
play234 [6d?\]: why comment in a live broadcast? 
SoulMighty [-\]: order of play
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: why not?^^
svgo [3k\]: which branch is the real game?
barbatruc [4k\]: merci
Vogel [1d\]: when b5 didnt work, what to do alternativly
shika12 [-\]: the first one
lwhite [5d\]: Eurogo just stay in the game
Nemerid [-\]: yes, we are a little confused when there is a comment and how is the game
Chrom [3k\]: it would be nice if the comment could be done in a cloned game
zaza [-\]: to me, it is clear what is going one :)
play234 [6d?\]: because i've no clue what's going on - whats the game and whats not :)
Laki91 [5d\]: 2k?
lwhite [5d\]: have someone else do the comment game on a clone game
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;W[gp]
;B[co]C[gosta [4k\]: b must pay attention that cutting l5 will not harm
Ulath [5k\]: g3 ?
])
(;B[co]C[erikk [-\]: e3?
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;W[er]C[SoulMighty [-\]: ??
ayr [4k\]: ????
Swordfish8 [6d\]: f5 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this is one joseki
Swordfish8 [6d\]: this ok too
poukram [2d\]: arent they playing quite fast a the moment ?
Neufx9 [6d\]: white is winning i think
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but ok for w
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: not bad
])
(;B[eq]C[barbatruc [4k\]: nyoshi ?? 
Swordfish8 [6d\]: e5 
Nemerid [-\]: (oui, un peu de support thomas :p)
Swordfish8 [6d\]: black lose O-o
fab [4d\]: E5 and black's dead
Kumoriha [-\]: This is actual game, correct?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hm,, this is definitely mistake
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;W[eo]C[lwhite [5d\]: E5 and white captures black
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if w pplay here
Vogel [1d\]: hmm surprise the kyu tactic?
Nemerid [-\]: oh yes
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ok she is playing here
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;B[co]
;W[dn]C[shika12 [-\]: black fails
Nemerid [-\]: this is good for w
lwhite [5d\]: this the game?
toler [19k\]: ugh.
SoulMighty [-\]: ...
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes this is the game
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;B[bn]C[Cobja [1d\]: good to lose the whole corner?
lwhite [5d\]: oh,,
lwhite [5d\]: my god
tromp [-\]: a4
Koworu [8k?\]: why no comment in a live game? its typical to get live comments on tournament games i think lol 
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;W[ap]C[shika12 [-\]: black played this?
snowman [-\]: oh dear
Swordfish8 [6d\]: black cant read?
shika12 [-\]: i'm surprised
Hilm [5k\]: even me saw that ...
fab [4d\]: go nyoshi go
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: probably she over looked i guess
Nemerid [-\]: black misread 
Javaness [-\]: black wants to trick
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;B[ao]C[shika12 [-\]: lol
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;W[aq]C[shika12 [-\]: into what?
SoulMighty [-\]: trick how???
play234 [6d?\]: b sweating?
gimmemore: HARDCORE
FireAndGo [7k?\]: joke from eurogo ?
Swordfish8 [6d\]: why play the sequence out tho
Vistani [2k\]: w was tricked into killing 5 stones
Vistani [2k\]: poor w
Eucaryote [7k?\]: Blanc a le coin. ^^
Swordfish8 [6d\]: black had some uses for the stones if he didnt
toler [19k\]: lol
shika12 [-\]: he's trying to confuse white.....
Nemerid [-\]: *nyoshi !! nyoshi !!*
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this result is of corse good for w
SoulMighty [-\]: agreed
lwhite [5d\]: the game favors white now
Naso [9k\]: maybe she is nervous
Kumoriha [-\]: This really happened?
ayr [4k\]: how so?
shika12 [-\]: that's the only thing i can think of
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ok we shoul back,,,
fairgo1 [8k\]: o.o
FireAndGo [7k?\]: did b really play that ?
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;B[bm]
;W[bo]
;B[dj]C[shika12 [-\]: zaza that's nice
Swordfish8 [6d\]: h3 ?
Kumoriha [-\]: ...is this the game?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hm,,
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;W[dh]C[Dugong [2k\]: oh oh
Swordfish8 [6d\]: or some other move there?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this is the game
shika12 [-\]: i want to know what's going on however instead of how one is doing
lwhite [5d\]: 4d lose to 2k..
FireAndGo [7k?\]: I cant believe b did that on purpose
Lacour [5d\]: that's nyoshi http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/strasbourg%2Bgo/video/x455d4_une-regle-simplifiee-du-jeu-de-go_school
shika12 [-\]: stranger things ave hapend iwhite
Eucaryote [7k?\]: Blanc va pouvoir bien attaquer le centre ... :-)
Spraypaint [3k\]: w sandbagger>
Nemerid [-\]: white has already won against 3d
hartley [9k?\]: imagine watching a baseball game, football game, boxing match, or election race without on-going running commentary.....
SoulMighty [-\]: i can
FireAndGo [7k?\]: We are the commentary
flush [4d\]: lol
FaintSmile [3k\]: where is this playing at?
shika12 [-\]: ppl would think forthemselves......
flush [4d\]: g our videos ♥
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;B[ch]C[Javaness [-\]: in Germany, koblenz
]
;W[cg]
;B[ci]C[KimSun [1d\]: lol black is joking?
Chrom [3k\]: yes, the commentary is by word and the picture is live, so it is a difference
Vogel [1d\]: what to do instead of b5??
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so now w is clearly leading
fab [4d\]: white angry now, this sequence can't be good ^^
shika12 [-\]: black is very much serious
fab [4d\]: black*
Swordfish8 [6d\]: f13 
Nemerid [-\]: black was good on the beginning, but did a terrible mistake. And w is quite good in complicated situations
Cobja [1d\]: b is playing KGS-like
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: also b's lower side become weak,,
shika12 [-\]: i bet on the underdog!.....who want's to bet on white?
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;W[lk]C[Swordfish8 [6d\]: j4 or h3 gonna be good
Vade [5k\]: I do
shika12 [-\]: lol
Vade [5k\]: 200 bucks on lose
shika12 [-\]: O.o?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but this game is not a pro players game,, so we will see
shika12 [-\]: true enough
FireAndGo [7k?\]: maybe its only a handicap for w 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i guess b will get a chance
shika12 [-\]: makes the game more exciting
Swordfish8 [6d\]: http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/strasbourg%2Bgo/video/x455d4_une-regle-simplifiee-du-jeu-de-go_school
Swordfish8 [6d\]: what am i looking at?
Korea4K [2d\]: M8
flush [4d\]: white
Nemerid [-\]: you can see nyoshi talking ;)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes,, w want to get some infulnce in cernter and invade lower b's side
flush [4d\]: (on the left, if you couldn't tell :P)
Swordfish8 [6d\]: i only see a picture of artem aganist thomas deabrre on the bottom left
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: good thinking way
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: now is hard time for w
Nemerid [-\]: hard time for w ?
erikk [-\]: hard for w?
Mukti [5d\]: w seems to be doing fine to me
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: due to lower left fighting
Cobja [1d\]: paye tes regles strasbourgeoises
Mukti [5d\]: b's shape on the right is awful
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: b has got bad resulr
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;B[mk]C[Eucaryote [7k?\]: Blanc peut couper N10 ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but winning is not easy always,,
Cobja [1d\]: non
Eucaryote [7k?\]: Oki.
Eucaryote [7k?\]: Merci.
Cobja [1d\]: o11 trop sente pour noir
shika12 [-\]: ....... i'll still stick with black
FaintSmile [3k\]: i say W
Naso [9k\]: a captain never leaves the sinking ship, right shika? : )
FaintSmile [3k\]: the bottom shows he reads better than B
SoulMighty [-\]: maybe.. it was a bad fluke???
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;W[hq]C[toler [19k\]: it was a pretty big blunder..
FaintSmile [3k\]: doubt it
lwhite [5d\]: oh
gosta [4k\]: or b plays what he does not read
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: oh! strong move,, same as my idea^^
SoulMighty [-\]: ahhh here comes h3
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;B[hp]
;W[ip]C[dewill5 [16k\]: im scared to go in like that  -_-
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: very good
Javaness [-\]: black is really suffering
shika12 [-\]: exactly naso
Wirtuoosi [2d\]: how to follow from here, to me seems like b can shut w in and kill
Nemerid [-\]: nyoshi is good at fighting :)
Mukti [5d\]: w plays very good style -excellent
HyeJin [4d\]: no
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w's play is quite nice so far
Swordfish8 [6d\]: yeah white is doing great
toler [19k\]: Indeed
HyeJin [4d\]: b cant shut easily
Javaness [-\]: G4 is a tesuji?
Swordfish8 [6d\]: black cant do anything
shika12 [-\]: b can shut?
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;B[iq]C[hatrick [2k\]: nice move
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;W[io]C[Swordfish8 [6d\]: hes sacrificing
shika12 [-\]: something happens....... something always happens.......
Wirtuoosi [2d\]: I probably underestimated j4 though
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hm,,this is also ok
Javaness [-\]: she :p
toler [19k\]: hmm
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but conter atari is better issupporse
Estryx [5d\]: What is the real rank of white?
lwhite [5d\]: black atari wrong side
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;B[jq]C[shika12 [-\]: she has a cute name 
theshining [2d\]: los manja du schaffst das :D
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;W[gp]C[NameIess [-\]: w stronger than 2k
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;B[hr]
;W[ho]C[Swordfish8 [6d\]: complete fail..
Wirtuoosi [2d\]: yes, quite a bit stronger
SoulMighty [-\]: hmmmmm was there a better play?
NameIess [-\]: probably outdated rank
Eucaryote [7k?\]: Joli mûr ...
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes i dtold that already for sure
hatrick [2k\]: outdated rank for sure
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;B[gq]
;W[ii]C[Cobja [1d\]: elle est de strasbourg non?
eurogotv [-\]: Seul-ki is pm't you all the instruction fot the live TV broadcast
barakeel [1k\]: w is a sand bagger
Nemerid [-\]: oui Cobja
Cobja [1d\]: tous des sandbaggeurs la bas : P
meuns [4k\]: lol
lwhite [5d\]: game over
dewill5 [16k\]: resign
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: looks cool~~
meuns [4k\]: 2k.... no no no
Javaness [-\]: isn't P15 rather big
barakeel [1k\]: ko
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ok now b's feeling is very good,,
Nemerid [-\]: the victory is still far 
Kantid [8k\]: it's already second time, when someone says "game over"?
Cobja [1d\]: game over
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but territory difference is not much
toler [19k\]: lol
Cobja [1d\]: 3rd time
HyeJin [4d\]: what do u mean eurogotv?
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;B[lj]
;W[kk]
;B[kg]C[lwhite [5d\]: territory comes with attacking
Nemerid [-\]: yes, but last time they said game over for white :)
Mukti [5d\]: how can b be feeling good ? w is clearly leading
eurogotv [-\]: is your name seil-ki?
eurogotv [-\]: seul-ki
omerta [1d\]: territory is under the dead stones of the opponent
HyeJin [4d\]: i think he meant w
eurogotv [-\]: EuroGoTV1 look at your personal messages
theshining [2d\]: i like SE ^^
FaintSmile [3k\]: B is getting cocky
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so cleary good for w,, but we dont know yet
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: who will win
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;W[ld]C[Mukti [5d\]: anything can happen, but at the moment w is in control
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: right
hatrick [2k\]: i don't think  this thing is over yet
lwhite [5d\]: of course if white start playing like 2k , white will lose ^_^
hatrick [2k\]: w is not 2k
rosepark22 [3k\]: Is W 2k?
hatrick [2k\]: i think we have already established that :)
Mukti [5d\]: I am impressed with white's play - its rare to see such good style and natural flow- she must be very talented
Nemerid [-\]: not 2k kgs, for sure :)
hatrick [2k\]: yea, not my level for sure lol
Hyoga [6k\]: 2k ffg
FaintSmile [3k\]: mayb at mine
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;B[ig]C[FaintSmile [3k\]: >> << >>
rosepark22 [3k\]: what is this event anyhow?
lwhite [5d\]: but black over did herself in the opening
Wirtuoosi [2d\]: well I'm egf 2k and white could probably give me 2-3 stones atleast
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes she is talented player, i playes aginst her
SoulMighty [-\]: realy?
eurogotv [-\]: look at your PM EuroGoTV1
SoulMighty [-\]: is there a copy of the game?
SoulMighty [-\]: we can look at
lwhite [5d\]: ya,, you have your broadcast time wrong
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: whats PM? -_-;
eurogotv [-\]: personal message
niark [3d\]: lol
restart1 [1d\]: private message...
FaintSmile [3k\]: private message
HyeJin [4d\]: cute :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thx
theshining [2d\]: white won against a 3d before
Mukti [5d\]: w needs to do som. on the leftm but it's hard to decide exactly what...
hatrick [2k\]: the question is, is black a 4d ?
theshining [2d\]: imho black is 3d 
restart1 [1d\]: she thinks she is...
hatrick [2k\]: kgs 4d?
restart1 [1d\]: she was a solid 3dan
omerta [1d\]: black is _german_ 4d ... 
Mukti [5d\]: B is OK, she just made one huge oversight on the left
Mukti [5d\]: But she has recovered her copsure and is playing fine now I think
meuns [4k\]: lol not french 4d
Mukti [5d\]: composure*
theshining [2d\]: well she played 5-5 at the egc as 4d
play234 [6d?\]: b+89,5!
meuns [4k\]: lol
Mukti [5d\]: B just seemes a bit overeager at the start
meuns [4k\]: se lover
play234 [6d?\]: no way, i counted!
hatrick [2k\]: lol
theshining [2d\]: then i but you suck at math
barakeel [1k\]: no idea what to do next as white
Mukti [5d\]: w thinking hard at exatly the right moments in the game - good
hatrick [2k\]: i predict b will win if her running group gets settled :-)
theshining [2d\]: i would be happy if i would thinkl in my games at all ^^
Mukti [5d\]: w probably reading variations after som. like white C17
Swordfish8 [6d\]: i wanna hear what hong would do now
Swordfish8 [6d\]: =(
Swordfish8 [6d\]: wow c17
Mukti [5d\]: Hong ?
Swordfish8 [6d\]: hong seol ki
Mukti [5d\]: Ah, OK
Mukti [5d\]: I would love to hear that too
Swordfish8 [6d\]: =eurogotv1 (right?)
Mukti [5d\]: really ?
theshining [2d\]: yes
Mukti [5d\]: aha
Swordfish8 [6d\]: but before that
restart1 [1d\]: he would pass, and after b'S next move he would laugh and kill all her groups...
Swordfish8 [6d\]: i wanna hear what lee sedol thinks
HyeJin [4d\]: i think there is a problem in broadcast
HyeJin [4d\]: they send him PM and then fired?
restart1 [1d\]: he might ve talked too much...
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;W[fc]
;B[bg]C[erikk [-\]: seuk ki fired :)
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;W[dg]
;B[cf]C[Mukti [5d\]: yeah, I would love to have a video of a game by Lee where he just thinks aloud and says all he is thinking about - that would be sheer gold
restart1 [1d\]: :D
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;W[gg]C[SoulMighty [-\]: >_<
Almdudler [3d\]: german 4d ~ 1d
eurogotv [-\]: yes; there is TV!!!!!!!!!!!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hm,, w playes some slack mmove
Nemerid [-\]: Ah ah, two elephants jump :)
Mukti [5d\]: Hmmm, i don't like F17
toler [19k\]: lmao. score estimator said b+ 353.5
Bingo33 [3k\]: where?
Mukti [5d\]: too slack
buyback: just joined the game. why do they get a 2k to play the almgihty 4d?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: ok we should count a territory
toler [19k\]: white is no 2k
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: left 25
restart1 [1d\]: I don't think g13 will work...
Bingo33 [3k\]: i see TV~~
HyeJin [4d\]: the focus of camera is not ood
eurogotv [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game at http://EuroGoTV.com
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lower side 14
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: right corner14
Javaness [-\]: 10 on right?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so almost 55
HyeJin [4d\]: eurogotv, can u fix the focus :)
Estryx [5d\]: my estimator said "W +30"
Swordfish8 [6d\]: so 55?
Swordfish8 [6d\]: for black
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and w
eurogotv [-\]: ask EuroGoTV1
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lower right corner 10
eurogotv [-\]: i am in Amsterdam
hatrick [2k\]: there are 2 now?? 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lower left corner11
Javaness [-\]: I like the soupy feel  of the camera
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: top side 20
HyeJin [4d\]: EuroGoTV1 can u fix the focus o camera
Nemerid [-\]: w can make points in the center
Nyanjilla [-\]: that's artistic
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so 41
eurogotv [-\]: ^^
snowman [-\]: too busy counting :)
buyback: the 2k is doing quite well
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w need 1opoint in the center
barakeel [1k\]: 55 > 41
Nemerid [-\]: komi for white :)
theshining [2d\]: right side?
theshining [2d\]: right corner
Javaness [-\]: white has more potential though
Vade [5k\]: well the tv is nice and helpful
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;B[jj]
;W[il]C[Javaness [-\]: say F9
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: of course w has some potential
theshining [2d\]: j8 maybe better at h9 ?
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;B[jk]C[Swordfish8 [6d\]: it feels weird white isnt leading by 30 pts after that huge mistake black made
Vade [5k\]: don't slouch, girl ;/
Mukti [5d\]: Hmmm, I do not like black K10, the shape is just too painful
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: most part are very thick
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;W[jl]
;B[lm]C[HyeJin [4d\]: body language of w is also much confident
theshining [2d\]: lol
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but if w doesnt make some territory in the center
]
;W[kl]C[Kumoriha [-\]: She's left-handed?
snowman [-\]: that's good
Kumoriha [-\]: Yes
Nemerid [-\]: the center is quite small
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: then game to be close
Prym [-\]: allez ngoshi !
Bingo33 [3k\]: <-- left handed
Vade [5k\]: being left-handed helps in fighting
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes w is left hands
theshining [2d\]: is it possible to make the videostrem not so blurry?
Bingo33 [3k\]: no...left handed are just smarter XD
barakeel [1k\]: <--right and left handed
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry i have no idea
b3n [7k\]: where can you see video?
theshining [2d\]: ok 
Vade [5k\]: yes, yes, we're all ambidextrous
Mukti [5d\]: I still get `eurogotv1-5 offline - how to get footage ?
theshining [2d\]: eurogotv1
theshining [2d\]: it is
omerta [1d\]: just click on it even if there is written ofline
Kumoriha [-\]: Click on it?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: not really,, im right handed~~
twintom [6k\]: just klick on 1 but it is not focused
theshining [2d\]: it told me that it is offline too but eurogotv1 is onlone
jprizal [6k\]: if continue normally, i think white win 
SaveYou [4k\]: anyone counted territory ?
eurogotv [-\]: look again; channel 1 online now
eurogotv [-\]: picture not sharp onlu
HyeJin [4d\]: cmon EuroGoTV1, cant u make a better camera focus?
snowman [-\]: a left-handed person could focus that webcam...
theshining [2d\]: i think black should win if it becomes close
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i suppose it will be close game
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;B[os]C[rosepark22 [3k\]: can I watch this game on internet live?
HyeJin [4d\]: i am left handed
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;W[qo]C[Swordfish8 [6d\]: wow p1
xdx [9k\]: I like black
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes u can
]
;B[rm]C[rosepark22 [3k\]: where?
Kumoriha [-\]: Can't really see the stones though..
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: good move for b
eurogotv [-\]: http://EuroGoTV.com
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: bad exchange for w
Swordfish8 [6d\]: i dont understand last couple of moves
HyeJin [4d\]: maybe it is kind of censorship because of women tournament?
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;W[pr]C[eurogotv [-\]: lol
theshining [2d\]: lol
FaintSmile [3k\]: these players are weak
Mukti [5d\]: urely w should keep up the attack with s8 ?
theshining [2d\]: they arent running around naked so i dont see the reasons for censoring it
Almdudler [3d\]: how come german ranks are so weak?
omerta [1d\]: these players are women
Mukti [5d\]: this defensive moves is soft
Vade [5k\]: what's the 
Swordfish8 [6d\]: why did black play p1 and why did white play r5
SoulMighty [-\]: mukti what do u recommend?
Vade [5k\]: err right player doing with her shirt
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;B[eb]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: oh,, huge~~
Mukti [5d\]: I would play s8 instead of q2
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: double sente endgame
HyeJin [4d\]: w was not good in this last sequence :'(
Mukti [5d\]: w seems to have become overconfident
Mukti [5d\]: she is playing very slackly now
hatrick [2k\]: lol
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: last exchage which is lower right corner
theshining [2d\]: maybe thats the reason why black is 2k?
Mukti [5d\]: wheears black's play is very karai
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: was not so good
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;W[fb]C[Vade [5k\]: karai?
]
;B[je]C[toler [19k\]: black 2k? o_O
hatrick [2k\]: spicy??
septa [-\]: WHite
theshining [2d\]: no white is 2k
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: because now b could connect anytime
Mukti [5d\]: clear/forceful/powerful
toler [19k\]: lol. :P
Eilinen [9k\]: Eurogotv, is Suvi still playing?
Vade [5k\]: why not say one of those things then
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;W[id]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: she is playing
HyeJin [4d\]: L10 later
Vade [5k\]: slack english, if you ask me
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but almost finish
Vogel [1d\]: karai is english?
meuns [4k\]: no
Mukti [5d\]: karai is Japanese
Vade [5k\]: no, that's kinda the point
hatrick [2k\]: karai means "spicy" in japanese
gwkkkee: but Suvi is finnish
thanhomenh [-\]: is she vietnamese ?
Mukti [5d\]: opposite of nurui/slack
Swordfish8 [6d\]: k12 annoys me
Swordfish8 [6d\]: but thats just me
Swordfish8 [6d\]: =X
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: what is karai? i dont know actaully
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;B[ie]C[Vade [5k\]: see? That's why you don't mix in dumb foreign words with english
Vogel [1d\]: bad english :)
jprizal [6k\]: i think it's a 2k v4k game
Mukti [5d\]: karai is opposite of slack - forceful/energetic/positive/etc.
banby [1d\]: gg
meditation [1d\]: e8 now?
b3n [7k\]: Karai is a character in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles :D
snowman [-\]: o15 might be necessary
banby [1d\]: how 2k can do that?
toler [19k\]: i think so too, actually
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;W[he]
;B[jd]
;W[jc]C[Swordfish8 [6d\]: f18 was that big?
Swordfish8 [6d\]: i would ignore it i think
eurogotv [-\]: VIP-members dont have this blury picture; they have a HD quality picture^^
barakeel [1k\]: yes 2k aaarrrrrrrrre mucccch better$$
Swordfish8 [6d\]: play e8 maybe?
banby [1d\]: so poor
sheeryjay [2k\]: ermm ... isnt the blurring caused by wrong focus?
HyeJin [4d\]: LOL
banby [1d\]: i see they so strong
zxy [3d\]: r18
snowman [-\]: but i haven't got the hdtv yet!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: IoI
bilal [-\]: allez nyosh ;)
jprizal [6k\]: m15, game over
erikk [-\]:  o13 and m15?
twintom [6k\]: EuroGoTV1 please refocus the camera
Ulath [5k\]: allez les blancs !
Ibu [2k\]: black ahead now
theshining [2d\]: m15 not working
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: anyway in the game b get sente
Eucaryote [7k?\]: M15 ?
a361lbs [1k\]: m15 n15 o15 p14 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: where is biggest endgame?
toler [19k\]: would o15 really be a bad move? no way to escacpe..
toler [19k\]: *escape
Ulath [5k\]: s18 quite big
theshining [2d\]: r18 
Swordfish8 [6d\]: s9 is big...but e8 too
rosepark22 [3k\]: wow... graphic is poor at the internet...
Vogel [1d\]: e8 big?
eurogotv [-\]: go to http://EuroGoTV.com/index.php?menu=VIP-info and sign up as VIP-member and you have a sharp picture
Vade [5k\]: wow, that sucks
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: still w ahead but not is getting closer
eurogotv [-\]: this was a joke
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;B[hj]C[rosepark22 [3k\]: VIP should not be free I guess
theshining [2d\]: i hope so eurogotv 
jprizal [6k\]: m15 working well
Vade [5k\]: oh, was almost registering
Ulath [5k\]: why ? I want my shark picture ><
Ulath [5k\]: =)
eurogotv [-\]: VIP-membership is 5 euro for 2008
Chrom [3k\]: @toller: then w m15 and connected
buyback: next time you want to put a 10k on tv, i think i'll volunteer
jprizal [6k\]: kill from o12
jprizal [6k\]: not n14
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i tihnk now top right corner is biggest endgame
HyeJin [4d\]: how old is w player?
toler [19k\]: right
theshining [2d\]: yeah i knew it :D
Nemerid [-\]: 23 years old 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: more than 10 clearly
eurogotv [-\]: i am in love
rosepark22 [3k\]: two players looks like chinese or korean
Eucaryote [7k?\]: H11 ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but center is smaller than 10
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;W[hi]C[Eucaryote [7k?\]: :-)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: usually center looks bigger than real
erikk [-\]: but is b alive in the center?
]
;B[ji]C[theshining [2d\]: b cann connect
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes b could connect right side
theshining [2d\]: k11 for real?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry smaller than looking
buyback: if a kyu plays an even game with a kgs 9d, what do you think the result is going to be?
HyeJin [4d\]: pffff ^^
gob [3k\]: why not bO 13 N12 M 15 ?
Dugong [2k\]: would result in crazy kibitz
wuwei [4k\]: a very bored 9d?
spiriteyes [5k\]: f8 by w?
theshining [2d\]: o13 n12 m15 n15 o15 p13 p14 q14 p12 p15 
theshining [2d\]: doesnt work thats why
erikk [-\]: O13 N12 M15 p13 p14 q14? 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i think no need to last move for b
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: connect is better idea
theshining [2d\]: bamboo joint better there right?
HyeJin [4d\]: only 20 paricipants :(
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w remain just 3minute
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: bhas 15m
eurogotv [-\]: looks like the image got a little bit better?
HyeJin [4d\]: no
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;W[of]C[Alphabet: no^^
HyeJin [4d\]: even worse
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;B[pf]C[snowman [-\]: which beer did you drink
dewill5 [16k\]: anyone ever played a 3 hour game?
eurogotv [-\]: just my imagination then
eurogotv [-\]: lol
Eucaryote [7k?\]: Blanc sécurise.
HyeJin [4d\]: heineken most probably
eurogotv [-\]: no, i dont like Heineken
]
;W[og]C[toler [19k\]: ...
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hm,, also mistake
Vade [5k\]: no one likes heineken
sheeryjay [2k\]: dewill5 3:15h .. finished after all other players were done .. but was tiring
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: now b can connect 3 strone
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;B[oh]C[toler [19k\]: o15 would have been better both times..
]
;W[ni]
;B[oe]C[Ulath [5k\]: dewill, I played some 6hours chess games, it's really "fatiguant"
]
;W[ng]
;B[pd]C[Ulath [5k\]: don't remember how to say fatiguant
theshining [2d\]: but not so bit ?
theshining [2d\]: big
Ulath [5k\]: I should be tired (fatiguant = tiring ?)
Prym [-\]: "tiring"
Swordfish8 [6d\]: good for black again
Ulath [5k\]: lol ok :)
]
;W[oc]C[toler [19k\]: ugh
Swordfish8 [6d\]: white comletly lost control of this game =X
]
;B[ne]C[toler [19k\]: yeah.
]
;W[me]
;B[pe]C[Dugong [2k\]: suberb gote sequence
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and w get gote,,,
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this is very important point
]
;W[kf]C[Vistani [2k\]: w has to defend m15 now no?
Swordfish8 [6d\]: l15 
]
;B[ke]
;W[le]C[Swordfish8 [6d\]: s18 or r18 =x
Ulath [5k\]: yes, we too often speak about good or bad sente, but a good gote can be excellent too :)
Eucaryote [7k?\]: L15 était mieux ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w lost at least 5point
]
;B[rb]C[idontcare [3d\]: e8
barakeel [1k\]: s9
Swordfish8 [6d\]: i think should answer
Ulath [5k\]: aïe s18
Ulath [5k\]: =/
Swordfish8 [6d\]: monkey jump big
theshining [2d\]: t1
HyeJin [4d\]: please give someone to Manuela some tissue
Dugong [2k\]: and now b getting all big points left
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: lol
Vade [5k\]: poor shirt
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: reversed a game
]
;W[jh]C[rosepark22 [3k\]: B got a cold... caughing
toler [19k\]: lol
theshining [2d\]: k13 ?
Hanne [5k\]: please can we get a better focus for the camera?
snowman [-\]: col
toler [19k\]: is there any chance white can salvage this?
fdsaa: simply
fivekiller [1k\]: I can c the pic pretty well.
Prym [-\]: not me
barakeel [1k\]:  k13
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;B[jf]C[Vade [5k\]: the quality is terrible
Hanne [5k\]: it's all blurry :(
Prym [-\]: it's all blurred
fivekiller [1k\]: pretty good
Prym [-\]: it's usually much better
Vade [5k\]: terrible
Swordfish8 [6d\]: bad move
Swordfish8 [6d\]: k13 better
Eucaryote [7k?\]: >L12 ?
Bingo33 [3k\]: wow
Ulath [5k\]: l12 oui
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: no problem but just connect is better connection
Hanne [5k\]: bad shape, counter intuitive
jerry897: how can 4 dan play like this ?
toler [19k\]: beats me
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w starts byoyome
Prym [-\]: respect for the players
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 20moves 10m
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: quite enough time i think
SaveYou [4k\]: w can get a ko here ?
Swordfish8 [6d\]: thinking less might do him good
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;W[ih]C[HyeJin [4d\]: b has how many minutes?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 12
stafan [-\]: yay
]
;B[kh]C[stafan [-\]: manja playing
stafan [-\]: go, manja
Ulath [5k\]: l12 didn't work for W ?
]
;W[cs]C[Telemarket [4d\]: no
Eucaryote [7k?\]: L12 pouvait tuer K15 ?
]
;B[er]C[Dugong [2k\]: some kind of snapback
Bingo33 [3k\]: nope
lwhite [5d\]: white does not control the game no more
maligo [3d\]: heyyyyyyyyyy
Ulath [5k\]: ah... yes
Ulath [5k\]: snap =/
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: cutis good timing g2
Eucaryote [7k?\]: OKi.
Eucaryote [7k?\]: Merci.
toler [19k\]: doesn't look like there's much white can do..
maligo [3d\]: where is this game from????????????'''
Dugong [2k\]: Neptune
Swordfish8 [6d\]: before this or now?
HyeJin [4d\]: hmm, b stilll not alive though
Swordfish8 [6d\]: g2 not or before?
Ulath [5k\]: l12 m12 m13 j12 k13 et prise l13 snap, Eucaryote
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: now
Swordfish8 [6d\]: g2 now or before*
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: still
Ulath [5k\]: je pensais que ça marchait aussi ><
Podiceps [5k\]: european womens goe championship, round 1
Eucaryote [7k?\]: Merci.
tromp [-\]: s8
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: difficult to win for w
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: because not many places left
goodattack [1d\]: q7 foe w
lwhite [5d\]: i think white didn't do anything for 50moves
Bingo33 [3k\]: w is over....
lwhite [5d\]: anyways
HyeJin [4d\]: sad
lwhite [5d\]: game not over yet
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: only hope is attack b's group
HyeJin [4d\]: yes
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and get something
Hanne [5k\]: b group lookd done
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;W[qb]C[Ulath [5k\]: W is 6 stones below B level, so I'd say it's not a bad performance anyway
]
;B[jo]C[Prym [-\]: yes!
Vade [5k\]: losing is always bad
HyeJin [4d\]: of course. she played great
Ulath [5k\]: I'd be happy to lose by 5-10 points against 4d
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yep,, but she is much stronger
Mukti [5d\]: what;s the meaning of k5 ?
wuwei [4k\]: Vade I couldn't disagree more
Ulath [5k\]: both made mistakes, as in every go game played on earth..
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;W[fl]C[Ulath [5k\]: =)
Ulath [5k\]: but
dewill5 [16k\]: i woud luv to win against a 15k by 0.5 points :P
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: last b#s push was small
lwhite [5d\]: 4d would be happy to win against you by 5-10point too
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;B[hk]C[Ulath [5k\]: the point is, she didn't get 60 points behind
Ulath [5k\]: so, not so bad
HyeJin [4d\]: f8 interesting :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: s8 is quite big
lwhite [5d\]: s8??
lwhite [5d\]: or 9 you mean
f3etoiles [3d\]: the point is if you know you win, in go, you play safe and dont try to crush the opponent
barbatruc [4k\]: ou sont les yeux de noir centre ? 
Ulath [5k\]: lwhite : maybe, but for me it's a step to reach dan level..... now I lose by 50 points against 4d, the day I'l lose by 10 points I'll say I have improved a lot, and be ready to win by 5-10 against 4d ;)
Vade [5k\]: sure you can play safe and be happy with your loss of only 20 points
Hagios [4k\]: s8 for w, s9 for B, no?
toler [19k\]: can't white kill the group at k15 area? or am i crazy?
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;W[rk]C[Dugong [2k\]: s9 no worry
HyeJin [4d\]: cool
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i dont understand actually,,
Hanne [5k\]: EuroGoTV1, would you please ask someone about the camera, please? ;-;
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: connect nuch better for b
DaRib [2d\]: umisn't h8 must
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;B[ln]C[Dugong [2k\]: well.. seems w a step behind
]
;W[jn]
;B[fp]C[HyeJin [4d\]: cmon cao..
]
;W[fo]
;B[gn]C[lwhite [5d\]: ouchy
f3etoiles [3d\]: yoçu still dont understand : if  b is winning, she will not try to enlarge the margin
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: over play
]
;W[go]C[Mukti [5d\]: what on earth is b doing ?
Mukti [5d\]: she should just connect and win
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w could have kill 1 stone
theshining [2d\]: trying to connect in sente maybe?
Ulath [5k\]: I understand f3etoiles, this is true.. in chess too.. ok ok
]
;B[gl]C[Ulath [5k\]: so..
Dugong [2k\]: ah?
]
;W[fm]C[Ulath [5k\]: I will WIN against 4d
Ulath [5k\]: :D
]
;B[gm]C[Eucaryote [7k?\]: Noir grignotte beaucoup ...
]
;W[ea]C[toler [19k\]: -_-
]
;B[da]C[theshining [2d\]: Oo
Dugong [2k\]: ah?
D1cey1 [16k?\]: i hope to be able to play a 4d some day
HyeJin [4d\]: ??
]
;W[fa]C[D1cey1 [16k?\]: i need to improve alot
Vogel [1d\]: time?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thats very big
theshining [2d\]: f10 
HyeJin [4d\]: maybe
Dugong [2k\]: art of not creating eyes
Mukti [5d\]: what does grognotter mean ?
Mukti [5d\]: grignotter*
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: b should have played there before some time
HyeJin [4d\]: but w can kill maybe :9
Vogel [1d\]: yes
Prym [-\]: *nibble
Hanne [5k\]: grognotter = sneesing?
Prym [-\]: nibble
rubik [6d?\]: :-D
Ulath [5k\]: what is sneesing ? ^^
toler [19k\]: white k13? connect and go for kill? maybe? D:
Hanne [5k\]: grognotter
Javaness [-\]: F9 surely
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;B[hf]C[Ulath [5k\]: I know grignotter, but not sneesing ^^
Eucaryote [7k?\]: grignoter = to nibble
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: looks dagerous
Ulath [5k\]: and sneesing ?
Negi1 [4d\]: f9 connects...
Mukti [5d\]: ok merci
Eucaryote [7k?\]: :-)
Hanne [5k\]: sneesing is like sneezing, only with an s
Ulath [5k\]: ok
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if w tried to kill b's big group
]
;W[dd]C[eurogotv [-\]: still between 50 and 70 people watching the live TV broadcast
Prym [-\]: watching, but not seeing anything
ToyaStyle [3k\]: f10 kill?
Vogel [1d\]: lo
Podiceps [5k\]: blurry TV better than no TV
k30 [13k\]: b won ?
]
;B[cd]C[Dugong [2k\]: kind of hard with h14 tehre now
]
;W[ec]
;B[db]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: oh,, this is very bad exchage for b
]
;W[gf]C[HyeJin [4d\]: yep
Hanne [5k\]: how to pronounce ngoc?
Vade [5k\]: egg nog
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if w want to play, then e16 is better
maligo [3d\]: where is this game from?
ezgeh: grignotter
]
;B[ge]
;W[hd]C[Prym [-\]: grignitter
]
;B[ee]
;W[fe]C[Mukti [5d\]: w gained alot here, she seems to be leading now
Javaness [-\]: why white doesn't F10
k30 [13k\]: b some 30 pts ahead?
Vogel [1d\]: or f9
eurogotv [-\]: this is round 1 of the European Women Goe Championship
snowman [-\]: not really
FireAndGo [7k?\]: g12 ?
twintom [6k\]: 15 points ahead
Woodstock [-\]: wasn't there anything for white at C18 instead of E17?
Hanne [5k\]: o7 still not settled
FireAndGo [7k?\]: g12 could do anything good ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i think both playsers dont care about b's group in the center
Javaness [-\]: I am sad
Hanne [5k\]: cheer up!
D1cey1 [16k?\]: is it possible they'll come back to it later?
]
;B[ef]C[Hagios [4k\]: f10 connects for B, doesn't it?
Mukti [5d\]: about 56 for black and 54 for white - hmmm, close but w is thick and b has bad aji
toler [19k\]: duely no ted
eurogotv [-\]: why??? You are a VIP-member you should be glad
Javaness [-\]: come on manja, wake up
kodomo [3d\]: oh come on f10 somebody
HyeJin [4d\]: who is manja?
maligo [3d\]: hi java
eurogotv [-\]: black
Vade [5k\]: some anime character
Javaness [-\]: hi maligo
Hanne [5k\]: manja = manulela
maligo [3d\]: whats up?
NoodleMike [12k\]: someone that eats
NoodleMike [12k\]: :)
HyeJin [4d\]: Cmon Cao, eat the manja
NoodleMike [12k\]: Sorry, bad joke :P
Woodstock [-\]: go manja!
Prym [-\]: allez ngoshi
]
;W[fh]
;B[ps]C[maligo [3d\]: w f10 wins?
]
;W[qs]C[HyeJin [4d\]:  b so careless
BanziC [3d\]: b looks alive after n12 though
HyeJin [4d\]: q7 brings problems though
domie [1d\]: careless ? which group ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: without center b's group
Mukti [5d\]: quite tricky, after n12 w has Q7 and then N8
Hanne [5k\]: if center group dies, game over
maligo [3d\]: java where r u??
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: b ahead aroung 9point
]
;B[nr]
;W[or]C[Javaness [-\]: i'm fine thanks maligo
]
;B[ns]
;W[qr]C[Mukti [5d\]: 9 points ? It seems much less to me
maligo [3d\]: kk
HyeJin [4d\]: w g2
maligo [3d\]: java wanna pt?
Hanne [5k\]: w h13 soon
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: without komi
Mukti [5d\]: OK
Hoshiman [2d\]: manja spielt ja da
Mukti [5d\]: I agree
Hoshiman [2d\]: hihi
domie [1d\]: oh I see now, I also would have been careless
]
;B[km]C[Javaness [-\]: pt?
]
;W[jm]C[Javaness [-\]: no time to play
Hanne [5k\]: b making w stronger ..
maligo [3d\]: private talk
Eilinen [9k\]: javanees
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: now b must denfence
Eilinen [9k\]: how strong you are? : D
HyeJin [4d\]: still anything can happen
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes,, its Go
Telemarket [4d\]: how much is komi ?
Vade [5k\]: Go - The random game of luck and stuff happening in the end
snowman [-\]: eilinen, just try to find sir ian in the european go database
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: maybe normal
LSF23 [13k\]: komi =6.5
Telemarket [4d\]: ok
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: or maybe ing rule??
Hagios [4k\]: Komi is 8 in ING rules, I thought?
HyeJin [4d\]: now b killable
Lifestream [8d\]: easy life
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: then,, very close game,,,
Hanne [5k\]: summertime, and the living is easy .. 
toler [19k\]: lol.
domie [1d\]: :) Hanne
goodattack [1d\]: q7
HyeJin [4d\]: how easy?
slim76 [2d\]: monkey is jumping and kibitz level is high
domie [1d\]: your dady's rich
Hoshiman [2d\]: which tournament is this?
Eucaryote [7k?\]: T9 ?
Hoshiman [2d\]: can anyone tell me?
Naso [9k\]: EU female championship
coolpapa [9k\]: And your moyo's good-lookin'...
Hoshiman [2d\]: ooh
snowman [-\]: i cannot break the code in the coughing
Lifestream [8d\]: hyejin, very
Naso [9k\]: played in germany, koblenz
ezgeh: when you are a lifestream, i gues it's easy
loikun [5k\]: it is written in EuroGoTV1 info.
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w should cut b14 also
fivekiller [1k\]: which part of Germany?
Hoshiman [2d\]: can white kill the whole group on f19
FireAndGo [7k?\]: what's incredible is that b is back a little ahead after that lower left massacre
Javaness [-\]: does black have no fear?
fivekiller [1k\]: koblen?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: koblenz
domie [1d\]: well what about F9 ?
Lifestream [8d\]: black must play f9 
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;B[fk]C[domie [1d\]: ahhhhhh
Aokame [2k\]: this w good against 4d
Aokame [2k\]: where from w?
HyeJin [4d\]: ok at blast
Javaness [-\]: *\\o/*
domie [1d\]: ऴ_ऴ
Cal [1d\]: W French
Cal [1d\]: B German
HyeJin [4d\]: cut g2?
domie [1d\]: French ????
ezgeh: yeah german ratings...so overrated
Aokame [2k\]: french should really rethink their official ranks. too strict
Hanne [5k\]: i hope there won't be any blood coughing
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: s6 is big
]
;W[dl]C[Clark [2d?\]: german are weak
Cal [1d\]: B on KGS: kruemel, battlego
Clark [2d?\]: +s
scurge [4d\]: in germany if you just weak up and the morning and say ok i am six than then tou are six dan:)
Aokame [2k\]: no, clark
domie [1d\]: I am French and never heard about Ngoc Trang Cao
Aokame [2k\]: stop trollinng
shanku [4k\]: e16 is big
Prym [-\]: too bad for you
Aokame [2k\]: no, scurge
slim76 [2d\]: d9 and b has won
Clark [2d?\]: Aokame, who is trolling? i say the truth
Aokame [2k\]: not right
mentat [-\]: what is ngoc-trang cao account in kgs?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes she from vitnam
theshining [2d\]: dont feed the trolls 
toler [19k\]: nyoshi i think?
lwhite [5d\]: what is black thinking
FireAndGo [7k?\]: s10 becoming big also
Drachan [11k\]: Who is leading? b?
lwhite [5d\]: black ahead
lwhite [5d\]: no way to catch up
aez [12k\]: the black cluster at the bottom looks very shaky :\\
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w starts byo as well
Javaness [-\]: http://www.dgob.de/ewgc08/ewgc2008.php
Lifestream [8d\]: the video is quite blurry
Clark [2d?\]: would be funny, if w would win
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if w will play best endgame,, w win
lwhite [5d\]: no
HyeJin [4d\]: why so less participants?
k30 [13k\]: i predict b+9.5
Hanne [5k\]: in germany, chess is far more popular than go, but i guess this is normal in "western" culture
lwhite [5d\]: if white play best end game and black play worst end game then maybe
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: suppose that ing's rule
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;B[dk]C[Clark [2d?\]: :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but not so easy..
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: for ex) w should cut j2
Hoshiman [2d\]: i think b wins by 3 points
Hoshiman [2d\]: about
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and also w should have cut b12
Mukti [5d\]: At the moment b seems about 3 ahead. Not that much, but hard to see how w can close the gap
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: s6 is huge
HyeJin [4d\]: j2 or g2? 
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: s6 r7 t7
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w got smome point
]
;W[cm]C[Lifestream [8d\]: b wins
Almdudler [3d\]: shameful game for b
lwhite [5d\]: there 8d had spoken
Javaness [-\]: they are playing with Ing Rules I take it?
Hanne [5k\]: 8d spoke before
Almdudler [3d\]: 8d happens to be fake ^.^
]
;B[bl]
;W[pm]
;B[pn]
;W[ek]C[lwhite [5d\]: bad peep
chrpa [1k\]: no good
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w win still
Telemarket [4d\]: s6 seems big
Mukti [5d\]:  win ? surely b is a few points ahead ?
Javaness [-\]: snowman, what rank is this lifestream player in finland
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: a half poing something
Lifestream [8d\]: b is few points ahead
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if im w
Lifestream [8d\]: javaness, cant you see it in my info?
fivekiller [1k\]: ha ha
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i could surly win
]
;B[ej]
;W[el]C[Vade [5k\]: stream is sauna's faithful cardboard dan
lwhite [5d\]: that is all talk Eurogo
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: but w peep was bad exchange,,#
HyeJin [4d\]: maybe i should go to koblenz, it is not that far
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: so i dont know now
]
;B[fj]
;W[nj]
;B[mj]C[Clark [2d?\]: lifestream cheats^^
mirdolatte [2d\]: you could go for the side tournament tomorrow
Lifestream [8d\]: no cheating here
domie [1d\]: well this yose is quite boring
Clark [2d?\]: :P
]
;W[qm]C[Lifestream [8d\]: that's a wrong expression vade
Clark [2d?\]: lucky^^
Lifestream [8d\]: im a dan alright
fivekiller [1k\]: koblenz,  near kostants?
]
;B[sn]C[Mukti [5d\]: yoik, R7 extremely bad
fivekiller [1k\]: konstantz
Vade [5k\]: cardboard 8d
Lifestream [8d\]: that's better
Mukti [5d\]: Now game definitely won for black
Lifestream [8d\]: im glad you're here to clear things for me
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: s5 is better b
]
;W[ro]C[royalty [3d\]: if i recall i once played against you and won
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes almost
]
;B[rn]C[Cal [1d\]: koblenz not near konstanz!
royalty [3d\]: i'm probably a 9 adn
Eucaryote [7k?\]: Pour gagner, blanc doit faire bon usage du sente.
Cal [1d\]: koblenz south of bonn
Mukti [5d\]: T6 really weird
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: s10
snowman [-\]: i love this rank trash talk
Lifestream [8d\]: that's good for you
Lifestream [8d\]: me too
leperenoel [-\]: t'as trouvé ca tout seul eucaryote? ^^
Javaness [-\]: *cough*
fivekiller [1k\]: ohh danke
Cal [1d\]: konstanz at Bodensee lake, close to Switzerland
Mukti [5d\]: Bless you javaness
Clark [2d?\]: :P
FaintSmile [3k\]: whoah
FaintSmile [3k\]: i missed alot...
Clark [2d?\]: e16 good
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this no need to counting
]
;W[ra]
;B[gi]C[Mukti [5d\]: s10 and s19 both big
]
;W[gh]
;B[ff]C[diplodokyu [9k?\]: is black winning ? 
]
;W[fd]C[Lifestream [8d\]: yes
]
;B[hp]C[FaintSmile [3k\]: its close
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: thats very small
Mukti [5d\]: h4???
Telemarket [4d\]: h4 too soon ?
aron666 [7k\]: e16 more point no
]
;W[om]C[aron666 [7k\]: ?
]
;B[nl]C[FaintSmile [3k\]: mustve misread
HyeJin [4d\]: h4 wrong!!
]
;W[hq]C[Mukti [5d\]: surely s10 much bigger
]
;B[so]
;W[sp]
;B[hp]C[HyeJin [4d\]: h4 wakes up w
Mukti [5d\]: weird endgame
]
;W[lf]C[Clark [2d?\]: h4 so small..
]
;B[jg]C[HyeJin [4d\]: and psyhologically wrong
]
(;W[hg])
(;W[hq]C[Clark [2d?\]: s10 better
]
;B[hg]C[Rayuela [4k\]: hyejin ukrainian?
Mukti [5d\]: what's going on ?
]
;W[hh]
;B[hp]C[Clark [2d?\]: ?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: com is very slow
FireAndGo [7k?\]: f6 is good ?
Vade [5k\]: eurogotv has terrible equipment, huh
Mukti [5d\]: w lost a lot of points there
]
;W[no]C[csgo [?\]: q10?
Eucaryote [7k?\]: N6 ?
]
;B[nn]
;W[hq]
;B[rj]
;W[sj]
;B[si]
;W[sk]
;B[ed]C[Cal [1d\]: thats our equipment, not eurogotvs
]
;W[pj]C[Clark [2d?\]: s10 was big
]
;B[qg]
;W[an]C[Mukti [5d\]: b already about 5+ poits ahead
]
;B[ll]C[FaintSmile [3k\]: theyre terrible at endgame >>
scurge [4d\]: sad ending
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: endgame is europia's weakness
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: even 6 bor 7dan
flambeau [4d\]: just 5 pts not bad for 2k
scurge [4d\]: btw do you know how played the other boards eurogo?
thanhomenh [-\]: not sure :)
Vade [5k\]: not bad if we assume she lost before move 1
Vade [5k\]: and that's sort of rude
thanhomenh [-\]: 2,5 or 3,5 for black
]
;W[ds]C[flambeau [4d\]: 2k vs 4d, of course lost before move 1
]
;B[es]
;W[bs]
;B[hp]
;W[df]C[Vade [5k\]: then why play?
]
;B[de]
;W[hq]C[flambeau [4d\]: to get better
flambeau [4d\]: i guess
]
;B[kd]C[BakaBlue [-\]: w seems better than 2k
snowman [-\]: why not shut up
]
;W[kc]
;B[hp]C[Lifestream [8d\]: lol
Clark [2d?\]: f11
]
;W[bh]C[FaintSmile [3k\]: j2 one W takes the ko?
]
;B[bf]
;W[hq]C[Clark [2d?\]: b12 bad
FaintSmile [3k\]: *once
lwhite [5d\]: black by 6
spy4: why is b12 bad
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: u saw this game? w got a lot of chance
Drachan [11k\]: e12 for b?
]
;B[fi]
;W[hp]C[Clark [2d?\]: because b plays f11 now ;)
Javaness [-\]: why not white G2
snowman [-\]: oh
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: hm,,
aron666 [7k\]: e12 
HyeJin [4d\]: :(
Mukti [5d\]: aaaaaaa
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: some hapening
Mukti [5d\]: E12
Javaness [-\]: I can't read?
]
;B[ir]C[EuroGoTV1 [-\]: yes e12
spy4: b12 doesn't have anything to do with f11
DeepTuna [2k\]: E12 to fix shortage of liberties
Potem [5k\]: :/
]
;W[am]
;B[al]
;W[ao]
;B[di]C[Mukti [5d\]: j2 safety first move
Potem [5k\]: O.o
]
;W[eh]
;B[fn]
;W[en]C[Celmeo [5k?\]: was J2 absolutely nessesary?
snowman [-\]: halleluja
Vade [5k\]: seki
Rayuela [4k\]: yes
Bingo33 [3k\]: ...
Vade [5k\]: otherwise
FreeCandy [1k\]: t18 big
]
;B[oo]C[Hanne [5k\]: J2 necessarissimo
jayjolin [1d\]: .....................
twintom [6k\]: b m12
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: for ex) this is gote1
]
;W[sb]C[friedrich [1d\]: why not b e12?
]
;B[sc]
;W[qa]
;B[mo]C[Eucaryote [7k?\]: G2 ?
FaintSmile [3k\]: j2 worth 3points for W
fdsaa: e12 worked
]
;W[ol]
;B[rl]
;W[ql]
;B[op]C[Clark [2d?\]: why is this game so late in the evening?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w lost many point in endgame,, but it was nice game for w
flambeau [4d\]: 0 pointer
Cal [1d\]: first round started late
Hanne [5k\]: sacrifice!
gimmemore: LOL
Vade [5k\]: t1!
Cal [1d\]: due to various problems
Vade [5k\]: time for yahoo tesuji
]
;W[nq]C[Cal [1d\]: like late arrivals
Lifestream [8d\]: she's my kind of a woman
Hanne [5k\]: who? me?
Lifestream [8d\]: no way
Vade [5k\]: what's your type? A woman?
Rayuela [4k\]: no, me
]
;B[lh]C[snowman [-\]: he-woman
]
;W[sl]
;B[hl]C[Lifestream [8d\]: She-Ra
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: she showed us her big potential!!
Hanne [5k\]: he-man strong
]
;W[hn]
;B[hm]
;W[sa]C[snowman [-\]: nice game, too friendly players :)
HyeJin [4d\]: are u flirting with her eurogotv?
Telemarket [4d\]: b+ 2 finally ?
thanhomenh [-\]: maybe
]
;B[po]C[lwhite [5d\]: well use Se
]
;W[mh]C[lwhite [5d\]: easy count
]
;B[kj]C[mentat [-\]: ing rules?
]
;W[lg]C[Vade [5k\]: dating go players is not a good idea
Javaness [-\]: yes ing
]
;B[ei]
;W[sm]C[Naso [9k\]: vade you made some experience?
Celmeo [5k?\]: J7?
sheeryjay [2k\]: why Vade?
]
;B[fg]C[Chievo [1d?\]: woah
Chievo [1d?\]: similar name to 
Chievo [1d?\]: wowah
appelsap [8k\]: does it matter during the game, if ING rules or not?
]
;W[in]C[snowman [-\]: vade, how about marrying and also having one as a child?
]
;B[im]C[Bingo33 [3k\]: whats ing rule
]
;W[ik]
;B[ij]
;W[gd]
;B[eg]
;W[ge]C[Aokame [2k\]: of corse appelsap
Cal [1d\]: appelsap during endgame ko, it matters sometimes
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: doesnt metter now
Javaness [-\]: snowman: terrible idea
Bingo33 [3k\]: <-- sorry 3rd month playing go
snowman [-\]: thought so too
Bingo33 [3k\]: can someone please tell me what is ing rule
appelsap [8k\]: only during ko?
Vade [5k\]: snowman, depends how much I want to make fun of you
mentat [-\]: google has a nice idea of ing rules
Chievo [1d?\]: this w has a similar name to somebody I know
Vade [5k\]: I'll go with "terrible"
Eucaryote [7k?\]: Le centre est très dense.
Cal [1d\]: also suicide is allowed
lwhite [5d\]: 5pts
lwhite [5d\]: i guess
Javaness [-\]: black +6.5
Cal [1d\]: sometimes ko threat
Bingo33 [3k\]: ...? suicide?
lwhite [5d\]: ing rule
lwhite [5d\]: no 0.5
lwhite [5d\]: komi is 8
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: how about japanese rule?
Telemarket [4d\]: 5 pt in ing rules
Bingo33 [3k\]: ............what?!
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: 6.5?
Bingo33 [3k\]: stop confusing me lol XD just tell me whats ing rule
Javaness [-\]: oh the board has japanese rules :)
Cal [1d\]: suicide - taking your own last liberty
snowman [-\]: no half points
lwhite [5d\]: ing rule no half point
lwhite [5d\]: komi is 8
Cal [1d\]: ing rules: complicated, no one really understands
Eucaryote [7k?\]: Passe ?
Cal [1d\]: even sum said so ;-)
lwhite [5d\]: Cal you dont understand doens't mean everyone
BakaBlue [-\]: ing rule komi 8, but if jigo , b win no ?
Cal [1d\]: yeah
ZLO [2k?\]: but there is no jigo
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: w won 5point
snowman [-\]: sum talks too much
lwhite [5d\]: ya
Chievo [1d?\]: my god, just noticed the scribe was flirting
Cal [1d\]: then you explain ;-)
FaintSmile [3k\]: W won : O
Bingo33 [3k\]: =.= 
lwhite [5d\]: can't be white won
elder [-\]: omg
vptony [6k\]: lol
lwhite [5d\]: white cheat
Mukti [5d\]: even with 8 komi b still wins safely
Chievo [1d?\]: how can w win? SE says w lost
elder [-\]: ing rules= w won :)
Javaness [-\]: Chievo weak
Miria [1d\]: ing rules
mentat [-\]: ing rules
Swordfish8 [6d\]: i think he meant b won
lwhite [5d\]: eurogotv1 is bad broadcaster
bhind [-\]: SE uses japanese rules
FreeCandy [1k\]: SE has the .5 komi in
Bingo33 [3k\]: -,-
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: imeanr b won 5
Swordfish8 [6d\]: i knew it
Naso [9k\]: ah!
Swordfish8 [6d\]: hehe
Naso [9k\]: ; )
Vogel [1d\]: :)
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: sorry^^^
BakaBlue [-\]: lol
FaintSmile [3k\]: dont say that iwhite
eurogotv [-\]: lol
Aokame [2k\]: eurogo...
Javaness [-\]: naughty eurogotv1
theshining [2d\]: lol this was kind of exciting
Klerus [1d\]: 2k beats 4d with white?
Cal [1d\]: Germany won ;-)))
ZLO [2k?\]: b+8
Swordfish8 [6d\]: no white lost
snowman [-\]: naughty, naughty, naughty
Cal [1d\]: Schlaaaaaaaaaaaaand!
theshining [2d\]: yes manja won yeah :D
HyeJin [4d\]: isnt w cute?
Swordfish8 [6d\]: b+5 is oficial result
theshining [2d\]: lol cal
Swordfish8 [6d\]: official*
Vade [5k\]: people thought 10+ komi was plausible? 
Javaness [-\]: Black wins by 5 points, it's official!
Cal [1d\]: that wasn't me
FireAndGo [7k?\]: look at the area around b4
Cal [1d\]: that wAS HER HUSBAND
Javaness [-\]: Thanks for relaying the game
Chievo [1d?\]: javaness, I wont let you call me weak, without a fight
FireAndGo [7k?\]: that was a really big "komi" lol
Bingo33 [3k\]: ..
FaintSmile [3k\]: thx eurogo
mentat [-\]: I can see a KGS loged in pc from the broadcast!
Chievo [1d?\]: so, you calling me weak must mean that you want a go battle
xio [11k\]: one thing i don't like about go are close results
FireAndGo [7k?\]: thx for the game :)
Cal [1d\]: next round is tomorrow at 10:00
Aokame [2k\]: ur blitz guy, chieco, all blitz guys are weak
Bingo33 [3k\]: thats true
]))))
(;W[lc]C[Javaness [-\]: Flush: watch it
Eucaryote [7k?\]: Blanc veut vivre sur place ?
aitkensam [4d\]: will there be a video feed today?
]
;B[pj]C[eurogotv [-\]: Seul-ki the camera please (Harry here)
]
;W[de]C[cherisse [2k\]: geesh flush yourself
Vade [5k\]: B wins hands down, next plz
eurogotv [-\]: i hope so
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: if b cut here
svgo [3k\]: java, it was an innocent question--he was just wondering about their previous biggest wins
eurogotv [-\]: only sound now
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and tenuki again
aron666 [7k\]: quoi il abandone deja le cote
ImNoSensei [-\]: w trying to tenuki her way to a win ? :)
KoReNJe [5d?\]: lol
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: and still left many agi
Leeroy [1d\]: ahhh
Chrom [3k\]: ha big brother is watching you, so...
Leeroy [1d\]: nooo
KoReNJe [5d?\]: cup size :S
Leeroy [1d\]: good fopr black
cavatina [1k\]: 2k'sgame watch this many?
Leeroy [1d\]: ^^
petroushka [7k\]: what?undo too many? what kind of player is he?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this is not real game
arapbaci [3k\]: she*
]))
(;W[pi]C[twintom [6k\]: yes eviiL
]
;B[qj]C[tuerda [1d\]: yes, it is normal, but it feels heavy to me
]
;W[ok]C[tuerda [1d\]: what with R17?
eurogotv [-\]: what is wrong with the camera
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: i think this is normal way to connect
XY0908 [-\]: I am so sorry, but what is this game?
]
;B[nl]
;W[qk]C[twintom [6k\]: http://www.dgob.de/ewgc08/ewgc2008.php?page=participants
]))
(;B[pi]
;W[nk]C[cherisse [2k\]: i didn't check yet
]
;B[mn]
;W[lp]
;B[kn]C[ManusDei [19k\]: what about the livestream?
EuroGoTV1 [-\]: this is probably noramal
]))
