(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[15/300 Canadian]
GN[1/4 finale table 1 (Tournois de Strasbourg)]PW[Cho Seokbin]PB[Fenech Antoine]WR[7d]BR[5d]DT[2010-05-29]EV[2e  tournoi international de Strasbourg]RO[1/4 finale]PC[Strasbourg]SO[http://www.gostrasbourg.fr]C[Strasbg1 [-\]: on commence dans 2min environ
Strasbg1 [-\]: j'attend le nigiri
zazie [5d\]: ok
Strasbg1 [-\]: benjamin a lance la table 2 en rush :)
Strasbg1 [-\]: k on lance la partie
]
;B[pd]
;W[dp]
;B[pq]
;W[po]
;B[cd]
;W[qq]
;B[qj]
;W[ed]C[Javaness [2d\]: Antoine je t'aime!
scurge [5d\]: who doesnt ;)
Strasbg1 [-\]: je vais eviter de le perturber :p
WoolyMaCha [4k?\]: Where is this Strasbourg?
Strasbg1 [-\]: France
zazie [5d\]: east of France
AmerBeton [7k\]: lol
WoolyMaCha [4k?\]: thx
AmerBeton [7k\]: c'est une ville paumee
Toph [?\]: et la capitale d'europe, comme par hasard...
AmerBeton [7k\]: lol
Chuky [4d\]: they speak german over there
Strasbg1 [-\]: nein il spreche nicht deutsch
]
;B[gc]C[Strasbg1 [-\]: ich
play234 [-\]: is this some kind of knock out tourney?
]
;W[nc]C[Djaian [2k\]: yes, it is, see http://www.gostrasbourg.fr/resultats/
Strasbg1 [-\]: little tournament during 2days
]
;B[ec]C[play234 [-\]: cool
]
;W[qc]C[play234 [-\]: hopefully cho vs dai in finals then :)
]
;B[qd]
;W[pc]C[Djaian [2k\]: probably
]
;B[od]
;W[oc]C[scurge [5d\]: cheer for French people dude! cho and dai won plenty already:p
Onmyoji [2d?\]: french too weak
A1R [4k\]: seokbin for win !
blonpina [10k\]: How you know it?
Javaness [2d\]: vive la france
A1R [4k\]: cause he is strong
]
;B[me]
;W[ld]
;B[le]
;W[kd]C[AmerBeton [7k\]: hum
Onmyoji [2d?\]: i count b+13.5
Onmyoji [2d?\]: whats ur count?
Strasbg1 [-\]: lol
AmerBeton [7k\]: w+r
AmerBeton [7k\]: for me
surprised [2k\]: how to handle the bottom and left ? I like b f3.
]
;B[qr]
;W[qp]
;B[mq]
;W[ql]
;B[oj]C[AmerBeton [7k\]: nice
]
;W[lq]C[daladim [1d\]: yahh i love that move
daladim [1d\]: preparing p2
]
;B[lp]
;W[kq]
;B[np]C[daladim [1d\]: hmm
daladim [1d\]: i didnt expect l3
]
;W[mo]C[Onmyoji [2d?\]: l3 only move
shakti [5d?\]: L3 is the standard joseki
daladim [1d\]: could have p2 too no ?
LetItGo [3d\]: p2 still there
daladim [1d\]: ok
]
;B[mp]
;W[rr]C[Onmyoji [2d?\]: i think w strong
]
;B[kp]
;W[iq]C[shakti [5d?\]: w happy
AmerBeton [7k\]: seems so
Onmyoji [2d?\]: not that happy
]
;B[jp]C[AmerBeton [7k\]: happy enough
]
;W[ip]C[nasnad [1d\]: b can get heavy quickly
]
;B[pr]C[AmerBeton [7k\]: i would have play n2 first
]
;W[cj]C[LetItGo [3d\]: c3 now
AmerBeton [7k\]: no choice
LetItGo [3d\]: c4 would do too :-)
sestir [-\]: could play E9 first
AmerBeton [7k\]: e9 ?
sestir [-\]: after C3, white will have lots of potential along the left edge. An E9-D8 exchange would reduce it ahead of the C3 invasion
]
;B[cq]
;W[cp]
;B[dq]
;W[fq]C[cody101 [1d\]: yes E9 should be played first
LetItGo [3d\]: e9 indirectly make c15 more intersting for w
cody101 [1d\]: whats does F3 mean?
ExplO [2d\]: "I want sente"
AmerBeton [7k\]: lol
]
;B[fr]
;W[gq]
;B[eq]
;W[ep]
;B[bp]
;W[bo]
;B[bq]
;W[fd]C[ExplO [2d\]: see :)
Onmyoji [2d?\]: w has taken the lead
Onmyoji [2d?\]: i count w+6.5
Takataka [8k\]: counting at this point is pointless
Onmyoji [2d?\]: no
]
;B[fc]C[cody101 [1d\]: never
]
;W[dd]C[cody101 [1d\]: counting always helps
LetItGo [3d\]: d17 insted of f17
]
;B[dc]
;W[ce]
;B[bd]
;W[be]C[BobWhoosta [5k\]: Black's got some work to do on the left side.
]
;B[ej]C[taiji [1d\]: cap cap ^o^
BobWhoosta [5k\]: Cap/
]
;W[dh]C[taiji [1d\]: aw
BobWhoosta [5k\]: Now F10, and it's a nice reduction.
]
;B[hj]C[AmerBeton [7k\]: f10 ?????
BobWhoosta [5k\]: G
BobWhoosta [5k\]: Sorry.
]
;W[jf]C[BobWhoosta [5k\]: I guess that's not far enough though.
]
;B[kg]
;W[ii]
;B[hi]C[BobWhoosta [5k\]: I like H11.
gdghgjd [2d\]: did cho seokbin play against dai junfu first round?
]
;W[ih]C[Strasbg1 [-\]: for the 1st round http://www.gostrasbourg.fr/resultats/
gdghgjd [2d\]: Thanks!
]
;B[ik]
;W[ki]
;B[li]
;W[lj]
;B[mi]C[Strasbg1 [-\]: Fenech already used 30min , Cho 9min
Onmyoji [2d?\]: lol
BobWhoosta [5k\]: Are these professional dans?
Strasbg1 [-\]: they both left the table time to time
Strasbg1 [-\]: no
BobWhoosta [5k\]: How do their ranks compare to kgs?
ExplO [2d\]: white is bin7674 on kgs
Thore [4d\]: Seakbin is 9d
fdgdfgh: vas y tony tord le
BobWhoosta [5k\]: Thanks.
]
;W[rk]C[Strasbg1 [-\]: Fenech is Lacour  here
just9x9 [-\]: omg w did count
BobWhoosta [5k\]: Black cannot allow S11.
]
;B[rj]
;W[gk]C[just9x9 [-\]: lol
just9x9 [-\]: g9
just9x9 [-\]: nice switch
DaVIP [-\]: this game was played way too cleanly up to now
DaVIP [-\]: time for some fighting
pinkpig [23k?\]: sth is bound to die now
zazie [5d\]: looks like a japanese game from the 70's
just9x9 [-\]: 1870? lol
DaVIP [-\]: shusaku lol
]
;B[fi]
;W[ek]
;B[bn]
;W[jl]C[fatihsulak [-\]: isnt b6 dangerous?
]
;B[dk]
;W[dj]C[taiji [1d\]: look like b get eated
Arhiman [2k\]: less dangerous than k8
]
;B[fk]
;W[el]
;B[fl]
;W[em]C[gorilla04 [1k\]: t3 t3 t3 r7 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 q8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 k8 
Onmyoji [2d?\]: :o
zazie [5d\]: please, no flood, gorilla
]
;B[eh]C[BobWhoosta [5k\]: Someone let their toddler play with the mouse.
fatihsulak [-\]: black plays confidently
zezette [3d\]: il joue achement vite antoine ajd
]
;W[eg]
;B[fg]
;W[ef]C[masek [?\]: Oho interesting ornament
just9x9 [-\]: g5
Hellhuman [1d\]: wasnt fenech antoine the blind one?
zezette [3d\]: nope
suoune [5d?\]: c'st ool es end ui ublient es lttres uand ls crivent
DaVIP [-\]: there's a blind go player?
zezette [3d\]: pierre audouard is
zezette [3d\]: 5d ranked
DaVIP [-\]: wow
DaVIP [-\]: so he plays completely on memory
Onmyoji [2d?\]: no
Onmyoji [2d?\]: he can touch
just9x9 [-\]: he touches the board, its a special one
zazie [5d\]: he has a special goban
Pumpking [13k\]: he must
zezette [3d\]: play on goban with special lines and stones
igaz: _
DaVIP [-\]: oh
Nightfawk [2k\]: is this game on tv ?
Javaness [2d\]: Pierre is a great guy
zazie [5d\]: but his blindness was progressive, a few years ago he can still manage to see a bit
Strasbg1 [-\]: nightfawk no
Meto [1d\]: h7
Nightfawk [2k\]: thx
rekin1 [?\]: C5
LetItGo [3d\]: f7
Elohim [1k\]: k10 looks lika alot of fun ^^
twold [1k\]: does b live?
fatihsulak [-\]: f7 very big imo
]
;B[gl]C[just9x9 [-\]: chicken
]
;W[ic]C[flogo [2d\]: gogo Cho ! 
]
;B[ae]
;W[af]
;B[ad]
;W[ao]C[just9x9 [-\]: wow
]
;B[co]C[twold [1k\]: so, does b live now? what if w g10?
]
;W[cn]
;B[do]C[DaVIP [-\]: patience young padawan
fireaway [5d?\]: b is not yet enclosed
]
;W[bm]
;B[dn]
;W[cm]C[twold [1k\]: hm, maybe. i am just afraid for that group :-)
]
;B[fp]
;W[eo]
(;B[fo])
(;B[en]
;W[fo]
;B[fn]
;W[go]C[just9x9 [-\]: lol
]
;B[dm]
;W[dl]C[zazie [5d\]: time for antoine to show a fenech's yose
flogo [2d\]: black is gonaa die big
twold [1k\]: it's called compassion ^^
Elohim [1k\]: fenesh ?
]
;B[cl]
;W[ck]
;B[bl]
;W[an]
;B[fm]
;W[dk]C[zazie [5d\]: antoine is known for a good yose usually
uwaaa: usually :D
]
;B[bf]
;W[cf]C[flogo [2d\]: b14 too early, kyu move !
Onmyoji [2d?\]: d11 d11 
just9x9 [-\]: b14 was answered
Onmyoji [2d?\]: lol
fireaway [5d?\]: bin is known for being awesome usually
]
;B[bg]
;W[nd]
;B[ne]
;W[rd]
;B[re]
;W[rc]C[flogo [2d\]: here are the points 
]
;B[qf]
;W[hb]
;B[gb]C[A1R [4k\]: yeah for his overplay ^^
]
;W[gr]C[zazie [5d\]: i count W+4 or 5 now
just9x9 [-\]: w gets all the big double sente moves until now
zazie [5d\]: maybe more
]
;B[er]
;W[mr]
;B[nr]
;W[pk]C[Simoff [1k?\]: more like w+15
]
;B[pj]C[zazie [5d\]: if you say so :)
Hyoga [2k\]: B13 was bad : /
Strasbg1 [-\]: time left : fenech 15min  , cho 42min
]
;W[kh]C[Meto [1d\]: b11
agugglez [5k\]: where is straabourg?
Strasbg1 [-\]: in france
Elohim [1k\]: german?
Strasbg1 [-\]: near germany
Draxt [4k\]: in france close to germany
]
;B[lh]
;W[il]C[agugglez [5k\]: i thought cho seok bin was teaching in japan
Djaian [2k\]: he is
goqc [4k\]: white will win this game i think...
Simoff [1k?\]: ofc, this is Cho Seokbin
Calis [2d\]: white already won
A1R [4k\]: cho always blitz
AroundOneD [2d\]: m2
]
;B[gg]C[agugglez [5k\]: white is ranked 2nd in kgs top 100
Meto [1d\]: g12 did
agugglez [5k\]: o
]
;W[jk]C[J0kel2 [4d\]: http://361points.com/choseokbin/
goqc [4k\]: what is name on kgs?
agugglez [5k\]: bin7674
]
;B[hl]
;W[ij]
;B[hk]C[agugglez [5k\]: m2
]
;W[lr]C[LotusBlanc [8k\]: =)
]
;B[rs]
;W[rq]C[agugglez [5k\]: g1
]
;B[oo]
;W[on]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: o6
goblinking [1d?\]: g1 probably not sente at this stage ...
]
;B[pp]
;W[pn]C[agugglez [5k\]: why not?
agugglez [5k\]: cause black still in danger?
Simoff [1k?\]: g1 looks sente to me
LetItGo [3d\]: c13
]
;B[no]C[BobWhoosta [5k\]: It's worth less points than other moves.
]
;W[ap]C[BobWhoosta [5k\]: And there's no good followup.
]
;B[aq]
;W[di]
;B[ei]C[fatihsulak [-\]: whşte controls the game 
]
;W[cg]C[BobWhoosta [5k\]: g1 tenuki h2 j2 
AroundOneD [2d\]: b12
]
;B[bh]
;W[bi]C[zazie [5d\]: more like 10-15 points now
fatihsulak [-\]: o6 seems big 
]
;B[qk]
;W[rl]C[vdust [2d\]: g1 tenuki k2, BobWhoosta, instead of h2
agugglez [5k\]: q8
BobWhoosta [5k\]: Ah.
]
;B[ok]
;W[kf]
;B[lf]
;W[hh]
;B[gh]
;W[fs]
;B[es]
;W[gs]C[agugglez [5k\]: hhm
fatihsulak [-\]: b2 7 points 
AroundOneD [2d\]: q8
BobWhoosta [5k\]: Why did white refrain from T10 first?
Demonsuji [3d\]: t10 not sente?
AroundOneD [2d\]: or b1
BobWhoosta [5k\]: Oh, that's right.
agugglez [5k\]: why not sente?
BobWhoosta [5k\]: Because of the S15 stone.
Thore [4d\]: b2 wrong 
Demonsuji [3d\]: t10, t11, t9, b tennuki
Thore [4d\]: c2
BobWhoosta [5k\]: Black too strong, white can't kill the stone.
AroundOneD [2d\]: or colive in the corner
fatihsulak [-\]: white c2 7 points sente? 
]
;B[bs]
;W[ms]C[J0kel2 [4d\]: w t10b t11 w t9   tenuki  later w can reduce  s11 t12 t13 s12 s13 r12 t15 
]
;B[jq]
;W[jr]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: b1, c1 c2 d1 are all same
]
;B[ns]C[fatihsulak [-\]: for black or for ehite?
]
;W[jg]C[Demonsuji [3d\]: different number of ko threats for some though
AroundOneD [2d\]: q8 now
goblinking [1d?\]: q8
]
;B[pl]C[gofreddy [4k\]: right
]
;W[pm]C[SergeLama [8k\]: ets ceque qqn connait les autres 1/4 de finale ?
gofreddy [4k\]: n16
Strasbg1 [-\]: http://www.gostrasbourg.fr/resultats/
SergeLama [8k\]: thx
Strasbg1 [-\]: pas encore de resultats de quarts
]
;B[lg]
;W[sj]
;B[si]
;W[sk]C[Simoff [1k?\]: t10 nice for making ko threats
]
;B[sd]
;W[sf]C[Simoff [1k?\]: oho
zazie [5d\]: uh :)
uwaaa: lol
Demonsuji [3d\]: uh oh
vdust [2d\]: erf... it was so obvious !!
BobWhoosta [5k\]: This is resign time.
Demonsuji [3d\]: b should've t15
Demonsuji [3d\]: not that he could've won anyways
agugglez [5k\]: so weird
Simoff [1k?\]: is black in byo-yomi ?
Strasbg1 [-\]: 2min left before byo yomi
agugglez [5k\]: way to go black
AroundOneD [2d\]: s12
Simoff [1k?\]: what's the point with s12 ?
]
;B[rg]
;W[se]
;B[sg]
;W[sc]
;B[ai]
;W[bk]
;B[md]
;W[mc]C[gofreddy [4k\]: b is ahead i think
agugglez [5k\]: lol
Simoff [1k?\]: hm, think again
Abeto [1d\]: yeah w ahead
AroundOneD [2d\]: h5
fatihsulak [-\]: white far ahead
Strasbg1 [-\]: fenech start the byo yomi
nanotech [2k\]: n7 makes sense
nanotech [2k\]: and w is not far ahead
agugglez [5k\]: h17
Demonsuji [3d\]: w+20...
zazie [5d\]: 10 points
]
;B[lk]
;W[mj]C[gofreddy [4k\]: komi is 7.5 ?
Abeto [1d\]: i say w +15
skyywalker [2d\]: w+ komi
]
;B[nj]
;W[mk]
;B[ll]
;W[ml]
;B[lm]
;W[mm]
;B[ln]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: n6
Simoff [1k?\]: hm, m9 doesn't look so good now
fatihsulak [-\]: i think w+10-12
]
;W[cc]
;B[bc]
;W[cb]
;B[bb]
;W[ga]C[BobWhoosta [5k\]: M6 sente for white.
]
;B[fa]C[BobWhoosta [5k\]: N6
]
;W[ha]C[just9x9 [-\]: h17
]
;B[hc]
;W[jb]C[agugglez [5k\]: h15'
Simoff [1k?\]: h15 no points, right ?
gofreddy [4k\]: w+17
agugglez [5k\]: better than taking white stones
fatihsulak [-\]: h15 few points
Concinnity [7k\]: J16 instead perhaps
]
;B[he]C[BobWhoosta [5k\]: Seems dame.
agugglez [5k\]: hehe
]
;W[io]C[jipi1980 [7k\]: n6?
]
;B[mn]
;W[id]
;B[ge]
;W[aj]C[agugglez [5k\]: cant a12
Simoff [1k?\]: black tenuki
fatihsulak [-\]: probably just resign
Demonsuji [3d\]: well in any case, w+
]
;B[hn]
;W[ho]C[zazie [5d\]: yes but certainly not 20 points Demonsuji ;)
Simoff [1k?\]: I don't think so, it's too late to resign
]
;B[je]
;W[ke]
;B[ie]C[Namii [-\]: It's impressive how Seokbin won without really doing anything
Demonsuji [3d\]: i think it should've been 15-20 still
Simoff [1k?\]: I had the same feeling when I played against him :p
]
;W[ch]
;B[ag]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: on board, w has about 6 points more
]
;W[nm]
;B[jd]
;W[jc]
;B[ol]
;W[jo]
;B[kk]
;W[kj]C[balhaartje [2k\]: off board w has bout 6.5 points more give or take
]
;B[fe]
;W[ko]
;B[lo]
;W[ee]
;B[gn]
;W[im]
;B[hm]C[gofreddy [4k\]: l7
AroundOneD [2d\]: t2
]
;W[sr]
;B[af]C[BobWhoosta [5k\]: Was H15 worth points because it prevented white from playing there first?
]
;W[sd]
;B[rf]
;W[ff]
;B[gf]C[Simoff [1k?\]: I think it's because of e19
vdust [2d\]: white h16 was big, yeah.
]
;W[hg]
;B[if]
;W[ss]
;B[qs]C[BobWhoosta [5k\]: I see.
BobWhoosta [5k\]: So it prevents H16 and takes care of the corner aji.
AroundOneD [2d\]: a12
]
;W[in]
;B[ah]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: waste a lot ko materials
Strasbg1 [-\]: dame , game over
SnC [2k\]: w leading
jipi1980 [7k\]: by 9?
Simoff [1k?\]: l6 ?
fatihsulak [-\]: 12,5
sestir [-\]: gg
AroundOneD [2d\]: w won for sure
Strasbg1 [-\]: l6 waqs completed in dame , no point , missed it
fatihsulak [-\]: then 11,5?
Simoff [1k?\]: no, 12.5
Simoff [1k?\]: it is a transcription error
BobWhoosta [5k\]: I don't understand, why can't white play l6?
uwaaa: 12.5 is correct
Strasbg1 [-\]: Cho won by 11.5
uwaaa: well white's turn and l6 = 12.5
just9x9 [-\]: thx strasbg1
uwaaa: so i guess he didn't want the extra point
AroundOneD [2d\]: thx
jipi1980 [7k\]: when are the demi finals?
zazie [5d\]: Strasbg1 said he missed it, uwaaa
zazie [5d\]: tomorrow morning
fatihsulak [-\]: thx
Strasbg1 [-\]: missed a few dame at the end (like l6 / s11) but there was no more points
Strasbg1 [-\]: tomorrow morning 8am gmt (10h cet)   semi final
Strasbg1 [-\]: and final 12h gmt  (14h cet)
Strasbg1 [-\]: thanks for following the game , see you tomorrow
yensai [13k\]: qqui a gagner?
Strasbg1 [-\]: CHO Seokbin
yensai [13k\]: ah ok
yensai [13k\]: bien
yensai [13k\]: mais
yensai [13k\]: antoine
yensai [13k\]: c'est bien battu
Javaness [2d\]: merci 1
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