(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]
SZ[19]RU[AGA]KM[5.50]TM[]
PB[ChampFr]PW[ChampFr]DT[2002-08-24]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[ChampFr [-\]: white is Ben Malek Farid 5d, black is Michel Jean 4d. Players have 1h15, the byo yomi is 15 stones for 5 min
boogie [11k\]: is it going to start soon?
Apple [-\]: yes
Apple [-\]: they're finishing their coffee
ChampFr [-\]: players are not here yet :) but some other games are beginning
ChampFr [-\]: right apple, how do you know? 
ChampFr [-\]: :)
Apple [-\]: I'm a medium
bass [3k\]: well done..
Apple [-\]: the other game has begun
Apple [-\]: champfr2
ChampFr [-\]: you can stay here too :-)
bass [3k\]: champfr, could you describe the surroundings there, please?
ChampFr [-\]: players are here now
]
;B[dp]CR[dp]
;W[pd]CR[pd]
;B[dd]CR[dd]
;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[po]CR[po]
;W[qo]CR[qo]
;B[pp]CR[pp]
;W[qp]CR[qp]
;B[oq]CR[oq]C[Acro [11k\]: nadare! :)
Acro [11k\]: r6?
]
;W[qq]CR[qq]C[minismurf [3d?\]: nadare? :(
]
;B[pn]CR[pn]C[bass [3k\]: yes, avalanche has started :-)
]
;W[qm]CR[qm]C[bass [3k\]: and ended :-)
]
;B[ol]CR[ol]C[minismurf [3d?\]: not much of an avalanche this one
minismurf [3d?\]: isn't white being nice on black here?
Acro [11k\]: more a snowball
bass [3k\]: lol
]
;W[jq]CR[jq]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[qn]CR[qn]
;W[rn]CR[rn]
;B[rm]CR[rm]
;W[rl]CR[rl]
;B[om]CR[om]
;W[sm]CR[sm]
;B[hq]CR[hq]
;W[mq]CR[mq]
;B[op]CR[op]C[bass [3k\]: p4 must be painful
steelhead [4k\]: why not p2, as the p4 cut ladder works for b?
KonradZuse [?\]: p6 cut ladder does not work...
]
;W[jo]CR[jo]
;B[jm]CR[jm]C[steelhead [4k\]: oh, duh....
Hu [10k\]: Dans like solid play like P4 because it fixes it once and for all and doesn't require later moves to repair.
KonradZuse [?\]: it's the only move
]
;W[ho]CR[ho]
;B[fq]CR[fq]C[bass [3k\]: r8 was the move that caused the need to repair..
KonradZuse [?\]: agreed
]
;W[ln]CR[ln]
;B[ll]CR[ll]C[domi [1k?\]: O6 ?
gothique [-\]: qui joue ici?
lordvad [29k?\]: see his info ?
ChampFr [-\]: ben malek vs michel (cf my info)
domi [1k?\]: Jean Michel = Noir 4dan
domi [1k?\]: lord now knows the answer by heart ^^
lordvad [29k?\]: tu m'etonnes ... :)
]
;W[cj]CR[cj]C[domi [1k?\]: c'est une des premieres choses qu'on m'a dit quand chuis arrivée ds la french room :-))
]
;B[nc]CR[nc]C[domi [1k?\]: right side is not very attractive, is it ?
domi [1k?\]: the dan players are all sleeping....
domi [1k?\]: what about M17 ?
erizo [3d\]: right domi. right side not interesting... but pincering is also dubious. hard to find a good answer
]
;W[qf]CR[qf]C[bass [3k\]: d14?
]
;B[jd]CR[jd]
;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[ch]CR[ch]C[domi [1k?\]: does he  hesitate between E14 and B12 ?
al [9k\]: c17?
]
;W[ef]CR[ef]C[minismurf [3d?\]: b12 is such a sad move
]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[di]CR[di]
;B[ce]CR[ce]
;W[bf]CR[bf]C[domi [1k?\]: I agree smurf :-))
Teemu [2d\]: Yes, especially as black does not have a stone at C8, I think.
]
;B[cl]CR[cl]C[Teemu [2d\]: Well, now he does. ;)
minismurf [3d?\]: too late to change to b12 now though :)
bass [3k\]: looks a bit greedy, c7 more common?
domi [1k?\]: I have never really weel understodd the aji of the push and cut at D12
Teemu [2d\]: domi, ask tictactoe about it, he can explain it well.
]
;W[cn]CR[cn]C[steelhead [4k\]: b4
bass [3k\]: greediness is punished :-)
domi [1k?\]: thx teemu
minismurf [3d?\]: toxxi also showed me, but it takes quite a lot of reading to find the weaknesses
domi [1k?\]: it happened to me in one of my game but this is messy ( a ko or something like that ??)
minismurf [3d?\]: yes, fighting in go is messy :)
minismurf [3d?\]: did you play your game with Goedel yet?
domi [1k?\]: no today goedel only played 9x9 I think
Teemu [2d\]: How about d7, and after pushing white a bit, then d12? 
domi [1k?\]: what about you smurf ?? :-)
steelhead [4k\]: is this live?  or replays?
steelhead [4k\]: seems awful fast for live.
Apple [-\]: live :)
bass [3k\]: live, 1h15min each, i think
steelhead [4k\]: wow
DameZumari [2d\]: but the clocks aren't running
Apple [-\]: they are not playing on the web
domi [1k?\]: don't anwer my question smurf ?
DameZumari [2d\]: ah.... someone is relaying it?
Apple [-\]: yeap
sould3mon [28k?\]: kgs is replying  
Apple [-\]: kgs' hat
DameZumari [2d\]: clever hat
ChampFr [-\]: :)
ChampFr2 [-\]: my cap is nice too ; why less observers in my game? :(
ChampFr2 [-\]: I'm jealous, brother
DameZumari [2d\]: your game is grey....
bass [3k\]: you will always be number 2 :-)
ChampFr [-\]: play :-)
domi [1k?\]: is your game more funny ?
KonradZuse [?\]: :)
Teemu [2d\]: Too bad that observers can not view the moves form the start.
obs [10k\]: who is champfr2?
sould3mon [28k?\]: options vieuw offline 
DameZumari [2d\]: yes, I miss that feature here
sould3mon [28k?\]: then you can vieuw it from the begining 
DameZumari [2d\]: ...after it has been played
sould3mon [28k?\]: no
sould3mon [28k?\]: you can now
sould3mon [28k?\]: at least i can
Matrlx [15k?\]: that's with the downloaded client though right?
sould3mon [28k?\]: yes
bass [3k\]: works for me too
Teemu [2d\]: sould3mon: thanks!
sould3mon [28k?\]: :) 
Matrlx [15k?\]: ah, I'm guessing it has a score estimater too?
bass [3k\]: yes :-)
sould3mon [28k?\]: yes
domi [1k?\]: B next move ?
Matrlx [15k?\]: aaah, that answers that question
bass [3k\]: c7
domi [1k?\]: C 7 ?????? just to help White
DameZumari [2d\]: I didn't know that it's possible to download these games--thanks
domi [1k?\]: and D7 ?
domi [1k?\]: or simply D6 ?
bass [3k\]: b overextended, so he must want to fight
Teemu [2d\]: Hmm, if d6, and white connects, white might be in trouble at bottom.
DameZumari [2d\]: yup
domi [1k?\]: yes but is D7 possible ?
DameZumari [2d\]: maybe that's what balck is thinking about
]
;B[co]CR[co]C[Teemu [2d\]: :)
domi [1k?\]: hahahahah want to fight did you say ?
bass [3k\]: humm, meant d7 instead of c7, sorry.. must learn to write :-)
Apple [-\]: it's a fighting move
domi [1k?\]: no in this case I think he just want the corner
]
;W[dn]CR[dn]
;B[el]CR[el]C[domi [1k?\]: glups
Apple [-\]: :)
ChampFr [-\]: remaining time: black 55min, white 53 min
Apple [-\]: it's a blitz?
Apple [-\]: :)
sould3mon [28k?\]: mmm how about f 5   maybe stupid what im saying :/ 
ChampFr [-\]: Jean Michel was playing much faster this morning
domi [1k?\]: but was against who this morning ?
ChampFr [-\]: see my info
sould3mon [28k?\]: champ i have an  idea 
ChampFr2 [-\]: my game is played faster than this one
bass [3k\]: :-)
domi [1k?\]: pffff think you are funny with your info
sould3mon [28k?\]: make a tournament kgs version with some more buttons like     a see my info button 
ChampFr [-\]: titles for broadcast are planned
deft [4d\]: It
DameZumari [2d\]: ?
deft [4d\]: It's really annoying that the navigation buttons don't work in a broadcast game...
domi [1k?\]: I try to imagine you have a conversation with someone and he tells all the time see my info !
deft [4d\]: (I hit enter by accident ;-)
DameZumari [2d\]: 'it' happens....
semelis [3d\]: deft, use options-view off-line
deft [4d\]: It
deft [4d\]: does
domi [1k?\]: deft what will be the next move ?
DameZumari [2d\]: ^_^
deft [4d\]: I know, semelis -- that's what annoys me :-)
deft [4d\]: I just came back from dinner -- I have to review a bit before making any comments / guesses...
DameZumari [2d\]: F6 seems submissive....
domi [1k?\]: you mean not very creative ?
DameZumari [2d\]: ...being pushed by black
sould3mon [28k?\]: how about g 7 ?   that possible ? 
domi [1k?\]: what about reinforce with E4 and so ?
DameZumari [2d\]: so presumably white is thinking of somehign beter
DameZumari [2d\]: or B8?
domi [1k?\]: giving the corner for sure is maybe stupid
bass [3k\]: b8 doesn't look too bad
domi [1k?\]: submissive too
bass [3k\]: b's answer?
DameZumari [2d\]: still leaves the problem of the white stones at the bottom
Apple [-\]: yeap
domi [1k?\]: and maybe the aji we were speaking in D12 would become more painful no ?
Apple [-\]: answer to b8 around f6
domi [1k?\]: play elsewhere ?
erizo [3d\]: white needs to play first on top side. white might be thinking about ending reasonably in sente on left side
deft [4d\]: sometimes E4 E3 C3 works well in this kind of position...
deft [4d\]: it takes a lot of reading to play like that, though..
deft [4d\]: F6 is the obvious move..
Apple [-\]: reading or confidence
Apple [-\]: :)
DameZumari [2d\]: are they separate?
deft [4d\]: reading == confidence
]
;W[ep]CR[ep]C[domi [1k?\]: :-))
DameZumari [2d\]: ^_^
DameZumari [2d\]: deft move
domi [1k?\]: i told this first Dame
deft [4d\]: I was too lazy to do the reading, though ;-)
DameZumari [2d\]: yabbut 'Domi move' doesn't sound so good...
DameZumari [2d\]: ...sorry
domi [1k?\]: deft was eating at this moment !! :)
minismurf [3d?\]: he was not reading either probably but he took some extra time to convince his opponent it is a good move :)
domi [1k?\]: in the north people eat very early !
minismurf [3d?\]: i had dinner before these games started
deft [4d\]: you call 19:21 early?
domi [1k?\]: at what time did you beginn your dinner ?
deft [4d\]: 19:00
sould3mon [28k?\]: how much time passed 
domi [1k?\]: often I finish mine at 9
]
;B[eq]CR[eq]C[DameZumari [2d\]: I wouldn't be able to sleep if I ate that late...
deft [4d\]: Actually, me too domi, but I just got some fast food so I could return to watch the game ;-)
ChampFr [-\]: remaining time: b:   52 min, w: 37 min
domi [1k?\]: where are you from Dame ?
sould3mon [28k?\]: thx
DameZumari [2d\]: ...which doesn't explain why I can't sleep now
]
;W[bl]CR[bl]C[deft [4d\]: :-)
deft [4d\]: I didn't expect B8
DameZumari [2d\]: so he plays both moves?
deft [4d\]: makes C8 look like kikashi... now B can claim a big corner and take sente...
domi [1k?\]: there must be a relationship
]
;B[bm]CR[bm]
;W[cm]CR[cm]C[Tokee [23k?\]: what is kikashi
]
;B[dh]CR[dh]C[deft [4d\]: wooooah...
DameZumari [2d\]: 'forced move'
deft [4d\]: B is getting crazy...
domi [1k?\]: lol
DameZumari [2d\]: scatter-shot
domi [1k?\]: B is an impetuous guy
semelis [3d\]: he can't decide betwen B9 and B6 ?
DameZumari [2d\]: looks like
]
;W[eh]CR[eh]
;B[bk]CR[bk]
;W[dl]CR[dl]
;B[ck]CR[ck]
;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[bj]CR[bj]C[DameZumari [2d\]: now D12 looks good
deft [4d\]: B6 gives W a big yose...
deft [4d\]: I don't think E13 cut is so worrysome for W as long as he can invade the corner...
domi [1k?\]: now W must bet on the center it seems
KonradZuse [?\]: W has lost some pace during fuseki... maybe r 14 was a mistake?
deft [4d\]: I would've played B6 in this position, since later it gives W C3
tippanni [27k\]: why do all the players play the first moveon the bottom left...i thought it was conventional to play top right?
DameZumari [2d\]: do they all play there?
tippanni [27k\]: yeah most of them
sould3mon [28k?\]: tippanni  put ure monitor upside down then it's top right 
DameZumari [2d\]: does that depend on where the game-recorder is sitting
tippanni [27k\]: he he he
Tokee [23k?\]: hmm but it doesnt really matter
bass [3k\]: depends on which side of the board champfr is sitting, i believe :-)
]
;W[bn]CR[bn]C[deft [4d\]: I think W's position is good, KonradZuse... the top is not B's territory...
ChampFr [-\]: white side
bass [3k\]: oh, i'm echoing :-)
DameZumari [2d\]: the game-recorder ought to sit on black7s side
deft [4d\]: In my eyes, B has almost no territory...
ChampFr [-\]: the game recorder is on the easier side for him
]
;B[ci]CR[ci]
;W[dj]CR[dj]C[DameZumari [2d\]: tut-tut
]
;B[dg]CR[dg]
;W[df]CR[df]
;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[fg]CR[fg]
;B[fh]CR[fh]
;W[ei]CR[ei]
;B[ff]CR[ff]
;W[gg]CR[gg]
;B[al]CR[al]C[deft [4d\]: this W play is a bit on the heavy side...
deft [4d\]: I think I would've played C17 instead of D14...
deft [4d\]: F15 is not good, so only option seems to be C17, in which case he shouldn't have connected D14 first as it only makes the sacrifice bigger...
semelis [3d\]: but now E17 is possible
DameZumari [2d\]: how much time has been used?
]
;W[cd]CR[cd]C[ChampFr [-\]: remaining time: b: 48 min, w: 25 min
DameZumari [2d\]: thanks
]
;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[bd]CR[bd]
;B[de]CR[de]C[domi [1k?\]: F15? 
Haboru [5d\]: no choice but to escape
DameZumari [2d\]: cut at d17 first?
]
;W[dc]CR[dc]C[DameZumari [2d\]: ^_^
domi [1k?\]: =^,,^=
DameZumari [2d\]: it leaves some nasty aji....
domi [1k?\]: I am surprised that people who are used to play bitz as deft & haboru can watch this game :-p
minismurf [3d?\]: maybe they have time to play a blitz at the same time?
domi [1k?\]: lol smurf !!! can you describe the players Champ ?
ChampFr [-\]: white is gone :)
DameZumari [2d\]: play blitz between the moves?
domi [1k?\]: what about Black ? thinking a lot ?
domi [1k?\]: do they speak together during the game ?
ChampFr [-\]: yes
ChampFr [-\]: no
DameZumari [2d\]: ?
Ogri [13k\]: well that was clear
ChampFr [-\]: yes to 1rst question, no to second one :)
semelis [3d\]: what about black ? -> Yes
domi [1k?\]: I was lucky this was not in your info ^^
sould3mon [28k?\]: lol don't tease him 
bass [3k\]: domi :-)
ChampFr [-\]: hehe domi
]
;B[ec]CR[ec]
;W[db]CR[db]C[domi [1k?\]: so I tell you : B is a tall man not very thin  with a barb 
DameZumari [2d\]: barb = beard?
domi [1k?\]: sorry my english :))
bass [3k\]: barb == spike :-)
DameZumari [2d\]: punk!
semelis [3d\]: barb-wired beard ?
]
;B[gf]CR[gf]C[ChampFr [-\]: remaining time: b: 34 min, w: 20 min
deft [4d\]: I don't think this is good, B15 is the vital point
bass [3k\]: and he said "let there be life"
domi [1k?\]: often this B with a beard (!) grumbles 
deft [4d\]: it's still dificult for W...
SPine [14k?\]: excuse me, is this French Championships?
minismurf [3d?\]: yes
domi [1k?\]: it is yes 
SPine [14k?\]: and if so is it live?
minismurf [3d?\]: yes
SPine [14k?\]: coo
deft [4d\]: B17 would be my move
bass [3k\]: mine too
DameZumari [2d\]: maaybe white would hate to play such a move, though
domi [1k?\]: if W had play F15 he could have B15 sente but now ?
semelis [3d\]: but whte is left too thin in the center to tennuki
erizo [3d\]: suffering h13 is too painful...
Haboru [5d\]: B17 or C18 ?
deft [4d\]: not C18, then there is more aji in B15, isn't it?
deft [4d\]: OTOH, then E18 is not sure to be sente
Haboru [5d\]: yes 
]
;W[eb]CR[eb]C[DameZumari [2d\]: lets see...
bass [3k\]: oh dear :-)
]
;B[fb]CR[fb]C[Haboru [5d\]: I thought this one but did niot dare
semelis [3d\]: aiming F15 ?
]
;W[gc]CR[gc]C[deft [4d\]: W was prepared to give up four stones to break into upper side I guess...
]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[ee]CR[ee]
;B[ed]CR[ed]
;W[bc]CR[bc]
;B[ea]CR[ea]
;W[cb]CR[cb]
;B[em]CR[em]
;W[dm]CR[dm]
;B[hg]CR[hg]
;W[gh]CR[gh]
;B[fi]CR[fi]C[deft [4d\]: is F11 playable?
deft [4d\]: I guess it is ;-)
SPine [14k?\]: guess so
domi [1k?\]: whaouhhhh so violent
Haboru [5d\]: big fights now
Acro [11k\]: f15?
Acro [11k\]: idea being g15 g16
SPine [14k?\]: yeah, me too
deft [4d\]: the french all seem to be very violent ...
Acro [11k\]: maybe that's not big enough
minismurf [3d?\]: yes, no wonder france has been in so many wars over the years...
domi [1k?\]: pffffffff
DameZumari [2d\]: now, now...
SPine [14k?\]: looks big to me...
SPine [14k?\]: any names to go w/ these players?
bass [3k\]: has it won any of the wars? *dodges*
eugene [8k?\]: that's occidental history!
minismurf [3d?\]: Round 6: Ben Malek Farid (W) vs. Michel Jean (B)
domi [1k?\]: Farid (W) has not a violent style (as I said before he was insei in Japan, maybe that's why)
eugene [8k?\]: not only french history
SPine [14k?\]: thanks
minismurf [3d?\]: was he close to making pro, did he get bored from being insei, anyone knows?
cyril [2d\]: Jean Michel  has sometimes a very nice aggresive style
Acro [11k\]: he's "only" 5d, so he can't have been that close....
Acro [11k\]: `only'
domi [1k?\]: don't know the real reason, smurf
Acro [11k\]: ie, about several orders of magnitude better than many of us will ever be
]
;W[gi]CR[gi]
;B[fj]CR[fj]C[erizo [3d\]: he used to be 6dan. maybe something in the french system demoted him to 5dan
minismurf [3d?\]: french system can demote players?
erizo [3d\]: i think so
]
;W[gj]CR[gj]
;B[fk]CR[fk]C[domi [1k?\]: there is nothing special in the french system recently
SPine [14k?\]: ahem... what is insei, pls?
ChampFr [-\]: remaining time: b: 32 min, w: 6 min
DameZumari [2d\]: insei = trainee pro
DameZumari [2d\]: in Japan
SPine [14k?\]: ahh
domi [1k?\]: pro -pupil
SPine [14k?\]: thanks
ChampFr [-\]: french system is computed according to results in tournaments
Haboru [5d\]: Painful to play D5
Acro [11k\]: can W play something like h15, give up the big group on the left and kill all the top?
Haboru [5d\]: W surching something else
Acro [11k\]: h14, even
]
;W[gk]CR[gk]C[minismurf [3d?\]: w can't kill all the top
]
;B[fo]CR[fo]C[DameZumari [2d\]: nice move
Haboru [5d\]: G9 ?? he his strong to calculate he will escape
minismurf [3d?\]: he is short on time
minismurf [3d?\]: just guessing?
Haboru [5d\]: D5 and if C4 then F6
domi [1k?\]: ChampFr [-\]: remaining time: b: 32 min, w: 6 min    it was 5mn ago
Haboru [5d\]: but pb if D5 then E5
deft [4d\]: Wshould play E5
KonradZuse [?\]: Just looked up Malek Farid's place in european rating list: 47
Haboru [5d\]: perhaps
deft [4d\]: E5 F4 F6 E6 D5 G6 D3
deft [4d\]: W center stones are in for a rough ride, though...
ChampFr [-\]: white enters byo-yomi
minismurf [3d?\]: E5 F6 also possible isn't it?
Haboru [5d\]: E5, G5
deft [4d\]: F6 is the strongest resistance, but it looks dangerous
Haboru [5d\]: and if F6, G8 
minismurf [3d?\]: E5 F6 and i have the impression the white dragon is in big trouble
semelis [3d\]: I agree with minismurf
deft [4d\]: maybe W can D3 immediately, then...
minismurf [3d?\]: i think it may make seki in the center though
deft [4d\]: hmm, doesn't work
deft [4d\]: I'm glad I'm not playing W ;-)
Haboru [5d\]: I don't think so D3, E5
minismurf [3d?\]: w is in boy-yomi 15 stones 5 minutes
]
;W[fn]CR[fn]C[minismurf [3d?\]: soon he will lose on time
]
;B[gl]CR[gl]C[deft [4d\]: ??
deft [4d\]: why couldn't B just push trough?
]
;W[en]CR[en]C[DameZumari [2d\]: decided to captuer the center stones instead?
deft [4d\]: I must've missed something
sould3mon [28k?\]: did black made a mistake  ?
semelis [3d\]: capturing center seems enough, and less risky
sould3mon [28k?\]: mmm
bass [3k\]: and more difficult
sould3mon [28k?\]: me courious hope it doesn't end on time 
]
;B[hk]CR[hk]C[minismurf [3d?\]: i was expecting push through also
]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[hf]CR[hf]
;W[gd]CR[gd]
;B[go]CR[go]C[DameZumari [2d\]: if black tried to push through, wouldn't he have got caught in damezumari?
]
;W[gn]CR[gn]C[Haboru [5d\]: Well done
deft [4d\]: B screwed up
deft [4d\]: this result is better than W deserved
Haboru [5d\]: But  cut not work !
]
;B[in]CR[in]C[Haboru [5d\]: yes good
SPine [14k?\]: w f 7 thenh 8?
]
;W[hn]CR[hn]
;B[io]CR[io]
;W[ip]CR[ip]C[SPine [14k?\]: *h 8*
semelis [3d\]: black wanted sente to keep attack ?
deft [4d\]: not good, just aji-keshi
Haboru [5d\]: cut not work again
]
;B[oe]CR[oe]
;W[hl]CR[hl]C[EzY [7k\]: ??? what happen if cut ?
DameZumari [2d\]: wow...
deft [4d\]: ?
deft [4d\]: W short of time?
minismurf [3d?\]: white is very short on time probably
Acro [11k\]: w's winning?
semelis [3d\]: !!!
Haboru [5d\]: J7, K6 and H8
Acro [11k\]: or losing?
Acro [11k\]: or what? :)
Haboru [5d\]: then H10 and F8
Haboru [5d\]: and W captures first
deft [4d\]: B H10
Acro [11k\]: h10 f8
Acro [11k\]: capture g7 ko
deft [4d\]: yes, it's ko...
deft [4d\]: B is collapsing...
Haboru [5d\]: yes ko now if H10
DameZumari [2d\]: that shouldn't've happened....
Acro [11k\]: B is playing himself into major trouble, isn't he :(
deft [4d\]: F8?
Haboru [5d\]: and H7 dose not work neither
semelis [3d\]: but after black closing F line, he can Q13,  is it enough ?
Haboru [5d\]: so for Black lLES BOULES
minismurf [3d?\]: not enought after w got G16 G17
semelis [3d\]: sorry H line
]
;B[il]CR[il]
;W[fl]CR[fl]
;B[fm]CR[fm]
;W[hm]CR[hm]
;B[hj]CR[hj]
;W[gm]CR[gm]
;B[hi]CR[hi]
;W[fl]CR[fl]C[Haboru [5d\]: please a good french / ennglish translator for " LES BOULES "
DameZumari [2d\]: the balls?
domi [1k?\]: why did B tenuki with P15 ?
Bindiou [13k\]: the nuts ?
Haboru [5d\]: yes :)
sould3mon [28k?\]: somthing like that 
]
;B[hb]CR[hb]
;W[gl]CR[gl]C[Haboru [5d\]: B regrets E 19
]
;B[ge]CR[ge]
;W[hh]CR[hh]
;B[ih]CR[ih]
;W[ii]CR[ii]
;B[jh]CR[jh]
;W[ik]CR[ik]C[DameZumari [2d\]: more sacrifice
Haboru [5d\]: B Q13
Haboru [5d\]: or Q18 before ?
Acro [11k\]: dpesn't B have to play the h4 cut and try and take the lower side?
Haboru [5d\]: no possible to kill
minismurf [3d?\]: w can push with K6 etc., looks unplayable
]
;B[qh]CR[qh]C[bass [3k\]: m8 stone would be swallowed
domi [1k?\]: Haboru, where did you learn french ?
]
;W[pg]CR[pg]C[Haboru [5d\]: At french school in Sofia ( Le lycée francais de Sofia )
]
;B[ph]CR[ph]
;W[og]CR[og]
;B[oh]CR[oh]C[DameZumari [2d\]: why is black pushing white in thise direction?
Haboru [5d\]: B plays to kill white if he escapes in his terrritory
DameZumari [2d\]: how can white die?
semelis [3d\]: kill the corner ??
Haboru [5d\]: san san
]
;W[oc]CR[oc]C[Haboru [5d\]: and big jeopardy
erizo [3d\]: white already survived twice. didn't black lost conficende in trying to kill?
Haboru [5d\]: :)
Haboru [5d\]: P3 is very good and frustating for B
Haboru [5d\]: p17 sorry
DameZumari [2d\]: you mean P17?
bass [3k\]: p17 you must mean?
DameZumari [2d\]: I make that mistake too, since I'm used to Japanese boards
erizo [3d\]: i guess at this stage black might feel a little irritated
sould3mon [28k?\]: maybe the magic cap can tell us 
DameZumari [2d\]: understatement....
]
;B[ob]CR[ob]
;W[pb]CR[pb]C[Haboru [5d\]: Usually atari is at P 16 is a very bad move
erizo [3d\]: still the game is pretty close...
Haboru [5d\]: but in these game; perhaps good because it is a way to close center
]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[ng]CR[ng]C[Haboru [5d\]: O18 good locally but global ?
DameZumari [2d\]: I need to try to sleep...
DameZumari [2d\]: ...good night
minismurf [3d?\]: if there is some aji in the corner... 
Haboru [5d\]: yes a lot
Haboru [5d\]: R 18 works
Haboru [5d\]: but to simple
bass [3k\]: but nothing life threatening
minismurf [3d?\]: but because P15 is not so strong it is still hard for black to get an attack on the whole group
Haboru [5d\]: R 17 more interesting
domi [1k?\]: hope they have finished before our rengo beginns smurf
erizo [3d\]: white can o16 as a reinforcement sacrifice
minismurf [3d?\]: yes, this is what i mean also about P15 not being strong
Haboru [5d\]: N14 or R17 ?
]
;B[qc]CR[qc]C[minismurf [3d?\]: R17 necessary to have a chnace
]
;W[qb]CR[qb]C[Haboru [5d\]: in any case yes better for 2 reasons : as a yosu miru and second W in byo yomi
]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[rc]CR[rc]
;B[od]CR[od]
;W[qd]CR[qd]C[Haboru [5d\]: thks to sente R14 will be possible
erizo [3d\]: but Farid is very good at haya-go. overtime shouldn't be a big concern ;o)
Haboru [5d\]: N14 sorry
sould3mon [28k?\]: how much time remaining ?  
minismurf [3d?\]: gentil-smurf, did you already win in this round?
]
;B[mg]CR[mg]C[gentil [6d\]: I think  farid is winning
cyril [2d\]: haya-go = japonese blitzist movement ?
erizo [3d\]: yup
]
(;W[mh]CR[mh])
(;W[nh]CR[nh]C[gentil [6d\]: i lost against the champion :)
gentil [6d\]:  colmez 6d
ChampFr [-\]: he is 5d ;)
gentil [6d\]: 6d
cyril [2d\]: I dont see how black can lost this game
ChampFr [-\]: no
ChampFr [-\]: 499
gentil [6d\]: 499 is 6d for me :)
]
;B[mh]CR[mh]C[ChampFr [-\]: not for him
]
;W[ni]CR[ni]
;B[pl]CR[pl]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[mf]CR[mf]
;W[ne]CR[ne]
;B[me]CR[me]
;W[nd]CR[nd]C[minismurf [3d?\]: you are counting european ranks for the french dan levels?
]
;B[md]CR[md]
;W[oc]CR[oc]C[gentil [6d\]: french level
bass [3k\]: 499d sounds strong
]
;B[jk]CR[jk]
;W[jj]CR[jj]C[minismurf [3d?\]: lower left getting big
ChampFr [-\]: pierre always says he is only 5d and other players are overestimated
gentil [6d\]: pierre tricked me
minismurf [3d?\]: he is the one that is also a very good mathematician?
]
;B[kj]CR[kj]C[gentil [6d\]: yes, he is
cyril [2d\]: gentil,  or the tricker tricked.
ChampFr [-\]: number theorician
cyril [2d\]: mmm, analyst
gentil [6d\]:  q17 is big
cyril [2d\]: p-adic stuff
minismurf [3d?\]: analytic number theory is closer to number theory than analysis :)
Haboru [5d\]: Yes and C3 too
minismurf [3d?\]: i think C3
bass [3k\]: and both gote, so miai?
Haboru [5d\]: yes definitly
gentil [6d\]: if black plays, he would b4 than c3
Haboru [5d\]: because of the Ko ressource after A5
]
;W[kk]CR[kk]
;B[jl]CR[jl]
;W[ki]CR[ki]
;B[lj]CR[lj]
;W[ji]CR[ji]C[Haboru [5d\]: No I wanted to say W C3
]
;B[hp]CR[hp]
;W[jn]CR[jn]
;B[im]CR[im]
;W[nr]CR[nr]
;B[or]CR[or]
;W[ir]CR[ir]C[gentil [6d\]: bon, je vais voir le match de foot avec antoine
cyril [2d\]: berrkkk
cyril [2d\]: (pour le foot, pas pour antoine)
minismurf [3d?\]: it is not blitz football, so cyril doesn't like it
erizo [3d\]: j13 is something now for white...
cyril [2d\]: only 1 or 2 goals in 2 hours, so boring !
minismurf [3d?\]: it is fun :)
minismurf [3d?\]: but mostly to play yourself
cyril [2d\]: I prefer to run with my dragons than on an football field ...: -)
Acro [11k\]: football?
Acro [11k\]: it's fun to watch
]
;B[kp]CR[kp]C[cyril [2d\]: french soccer
Acro [11k\]: i know what football is
Acro [11k\]: i'm Scottish :)
cyril [2d\]: (bad luck for me)
erizo [3d\]: the 4th killin attempt!
]
;W[kq]CR[kq]C[cyril [2d\]: acro, so you are thowing away big trees ?
minismurf [3d?\]: maybe he is playing to gain, not to kill :)
domi [1k?\]: many similar things with Schiller Acro !
minismurf [3d?\]: although he is not very subtle
Acro [11k\]: no, my preferred cliched scottish sport is Curling, actually
Acro [11k\]: :)
bass [3k\]: happily w has this amazing tesuji called "byoyomi" to make eyes :-)
Acro [11k\]: which you may have seen at the Winter Olympics
minismurf [3d?\]: Curling, i got to play that once
minismurf [3d?\]: i was terrible at it
erizo [3d\]: but right now white is slighty ahead...
Acro [11k\]: i captained my school team at it
minismurf [3d?\]: Sweden always wins at the olympics ;)
cyril [2d\]: SChiller ???
Codexus [18k\]: Curling is good you also play it with stones :)
Acro [11k\]: k4?
]
;B[lp]CR[lp]C[deft [4d\]: L6
minismurf [3d?\]: k4 is a squeeze againg
]
;W[lq]CR[lq]
;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[jp]CR[jp]C[bass [3k\]: and if the opponent goes too deep. you can sweep his stone from the board.. 
]
;B[hr]CR[hr]
;W[hs]CR[hs]C[minismurf [3d?\]: yes, imagine someone showing up to a go tournament with a mini broom to sweep his opponents stones away :)
]
;B[ns]CR[ns]
;W[ms]CR[ms]C[sould3mon [28k?\]: such thing they use to paint 
]
;B[nq]CR[nq]C[Acro [11k\]: what's the status of hte lower left?
]
;W[os]CR[os]
;B[ps]CR[ps]C[Acro [11k\]: looks like B lives with about four points of territory...
minismurf [3d?\]: if b plays first it is not so small
Haboru [5d\]: nice sequence and difficult to deal with in byoyomi
]
;W[ns]CR[ns]
;B[ls]CR[ls]
;W[mr]CR[mr]
;B[pr]CR[pr]
;W[kr]CR[kr]C[deft [4d\]: K1 is sente seki
Haboru [5d\]: yes bad move
minismurf [3d?\]: but not with time to defend at G1
Haboru [5d\]: L1 was ok
]
;B[gs]CR[gs]C[deft [4d\]: L1 K1 is trouble for W
]
;W[is]CR[is]C[bass [3k\]: trouble, as in deadth
]
;B[rk]CR[rk]C[Haboru [5d\]: L1 , K1 M2
]
;W[rr]CR[rr]C[bass [3k\]: j1
deft [4d\]: ah, yes
]
;B[pc]CR[pc]
;W[an]CR[an]
;B[am]CR[am]
;W[cq]CR[cq]C[minismurf [3d?\]: Q17 is that big?
minismurf [3d?\]: lower left seems much bigger to me :(
Haboru [5d\]: I think B4 was bigger for black
minismurf [3d?\]: someone agrees :)
domi [1k?\]: who has counted ? (always my question :-))
minismurf [3d?\]: you? :)
]
;B[bq]CR[bq]C[gentil [6d\]: hi, it's Toru
]
;W[bp]CR[bp]
;B[br]CR[br]C[ChampFr [-\]: :)
gentil [6d\]: how r u, mini?
domi [1k?\]: salut toru
Haboru [5d\]: D3
gentil [6d\]: salut domi
]
;W[cp]CR[cp]
;B[cr]CR[cr]C[minismurf [3d?\]: i'm good :)
]
;W[dq]CR[dq]
;B[dr]CR[dr]C[gentil [6d\]: ok, good for you
minismurf [3d?\]: ^^
domi [1k?\]: ça va comment Toru ?
minismurf [3d?\]: domi, english room ;)
gentil [6d\]: it's not good for me, but well
ChampFr [-\]: 3/6 is not so bad Toru
gentil [6d\]: i won 3 and lost 3
bass [3k\]: f4:-)
gentil [6d\]: bof
]
;W[li]CR[li]C[gentil [6d\]: well, I let you comment, bye
ChampFr [-\]: black enters byo-yomi
domi [1k?\]: bye bye :)
minismurf [3d?\]: domi, rengotime :)
domi [1k?\]: yes i know
]
;B[mi]CR[mi]
;W[lk]CR[lk]
;B[mj]CR[mj]
;W[mk]CR[mk]C[Haboru [5d\]: J13 
minismurf [3d?\]: but this one takes some black stones
minismurf [3d?\]: or connects
deft [4d\]: only move that avoids capture is N8, but it's so painful I would rather resign than have to play it...
]
;B[ml]CR[ml]
;W[nk]CR[nk]
;B[kl]CR[kl]C[eugene [8k?\]: and n7?
]
;W[nj]CR[nj]
;B[mn]CR[mn]
;W[ig]CR[ig]C[Haboru [5d\]: O8 was bette
Haboru [5d\]: Tesuji
cyril [2d\]: what are the condition to participate to French Championship ?
deft [4d\]: W at least 15pt ahead...
ChampFr [-\]: be qualified in the regional tournament, or being strong 4d up, or have at least 5/8 at the preceding tournament
cyril [2d\]: strong 4d up = in the French level system ?
ChampFr [-\]: yes, 350 points and above
cyril [2d\]: are all the participants French palyers ?
gentil [6d\]: no
ChampFr [-\]: white wins on time
gentil [6d\]: :-(
Gulash [9k\]: aww man
ChampFr [-\]: thank you all for wtaching and commenting
play4fun [1d\]: thanks you
Codexus [18k\]: thank you
ChampFr [-\]: see you tomorrow for the last 2 rounds
eugene [8k?\]: your wellcom
coyote [1k?\]: thanks
ChampFr [-\]: for info, players with 5 wins/6 are Noguchi 5d, Colmez 5d, and Ben Malek 5d
gentil [6d\]: it's gentil again
gentil [6d\]: they are commenting
ChampFr [-\]: yes, players are revi<wing the game
ChampFr [-\]: bye
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