(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[5400]
PW[BARTHEL Floris 4D]PB[SILT Ondrej 6D]WR[4d]BR[6d]DT[2006-11-12]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]
;B[dp]
;W[pp]
;B[ee]
;W[pd]
;B[ce]
;W[fc]C[EYGML2 [-\]: this game is for the 3rd / 4th
]
;B[hd]
;W[fe]
;B[fd]
;W[gd]
;B[ed]
;W[ff]
;B[ge]
(;W[ec])
(;W[gc]
;B[ec]
;W[hc]
(;B[jc])
(;B[he]
;W[jc]
(;B[hg]
;W[fg]C[EYGML2 [-\]: (sorry for the mis click)
])
(;B[gg]
;W[fg]
;B[fh]
;AE[dp]AB[dn]
;W[eh]
;B[eg]
;W[fi]
;B[gh]
;W[dh]
;B[dg]
;W[ch]
;B[ej]
;W[cj]C[EYGML2 [-\]: (k its settled , finaly ...)  again sorry , we started in a rush
]
;B[cg]
;W[cl]
;B[bn]
;W[ep]
;B[cp]C[baduk54ks [3d\]: no prob
Cutrone [6k\]: it is ok
]
;W[jq]
;B[lc]
;W[je]
;B[le]
;W[jg]
;B[pf]
;W[of]
;B[og]
;W[oe]
;B[lg]
;W[pg]
;B[qf]
;W[ph]
;B[rf]
;W[ng]
;B[qc]
;W[qd]
;B[rd]
;W[pc]
;B[rb]
;W[qb]
;B[rc]C[Uberdude [1k\]: isn't w already behind?
]
;W[ji]
;B[li]
;W[mh]
;B[lh]
;W[lk]
;B[mi]
;W[ni]
;B[mk]
;W[mj]
;B[lj]
;W[nj]
;B[kk]
;W[ll]
;B[jj]
;W[ii]
;B[ei]
;W[ij]
;B[kl]
;W[lm]
;B[km]
;W[ln]
;B[ic]
;W[ib]
;B[id]
;W[jd]
;B[hb]
;W[gb]
;B[jb]
;W[ha]
;B[kb]
;W[eb]
;B[db]
;W[da]
;B[ca]
;W[ea]
;B[il]
;W[hl]
;B[hm]C[Godlike [1d\]: hmmm
Godlike [1d\]: I knew silt ondrej
bigfatcat [1k\]: f14- failure
Godlike [1d\]: he's from hungary right?
Teardrop [5d?\]: no, his gf is
Teardrop [5d?\]: he is from tschech
bigfatcat [1k\]: f14 not failure
Godlike [1d\]: poland then?
Godlike [1d\]: oh right
]
;W[gl]C[Godlike [1d\]: chech
EYGML2 [-\]: for info about the players on this event : http://wang-z.com/eygml2006/players.php
Godlike [1d\]: he is going to slovene tournaments
bigfatcat [1k\]: i assumed another order of moves, but it looks like it, white is just running then ?!
]
;B[gj]C[Godlike [1d\]: or maybe not
Godlike [1d\]: hmm this guy is 19 y old
Godlike [1d\]: right his nickname is agassi here on kgs
meh [7k\]: I think the youngest player is 16. I spent some time flipping though the profiles.
EYGML2 [-\]: the youngest is 13 ;)
janibi [1k\]: pfff I want to be so good too
meh [7k\]: Ah. Must've missed it. ^^
meh [7k\]: There's one that has an age listed as 0 but I assume that's a typo. ;p
]
;W[hj]C[EYGML2 [-\]: right , Debarre thomas
Godlike [1d\]: w dead there
Godlike [1d\]: ..
]
;B[kn]C[amni [2k\]: sensei's says pocsai and silt are a couple. neat that they're both in the tourney
]
;W[gm]
;B[lo]C[robbie10k [1d?\]: hmm
EYGML2 [-\]: they are both here , she lost yesterday
Godlike [1d\]: couple?
Godlike [1d\]: pocsai rita?
Godlike [1d\]: lol
Godlike [1d\]: eygml2, do you have any photos of her?
]
;W[nl]C[EYGML2 [-\]: photo of 1/4 final http://www.jmrw.com/GoodShape/EYGML.html
meh [7k\]: On the site, there's one.
]
;B[el]C[Godlike [1d\]: she looks pretty much the same 
Godlike [1d\]: I saw her 4 years ago here in Slovenia..
]
;W[em]C[deathjam [11k\]: could you say the time they got please?
Godlike [1d\]: http://the-nox.com/slike/__phpAutoGallery__picLoaderTmp/the-nox.com/slike/slike3/GO%20TOURNAMENT%20BLED%202005/2005_04_23/1024_IMG_3032.jpg
EYGML2 [-\]: 1h : 45min left for Silt , 40min left for Barthel
]
;B[dm]
;W[dl]C[deathjam [11k\]: thanks
]
;B[dk]
;W[en]
;B[ck]
;W[fl]
;B[ek]
;W[ko]
;B[io]C[Uberdude [1k\]: w sacrificed the left in hope to kill all middle?
Uberdude [1k\]: but i b p18 q18 o17
]
;W[ld]
;B[md]
;W[kd]
;B[mb]
;W[kp]
;B[hk]
;W[nc]
;B[mc]
;W[me]
;B[kf]
;W[jf]
;B[fa]
;W[fb]
;B[la]
;W[mf]C[illidan [7d\]: looks quite over
]
;B[ik]
;W[lf]C[Godlike [1d\]: poor black
robbie10k [1d?\]: poor black?
Godlike [1d\]: he's losing
Uberdude [1k\]: why didn't white do j9 first?
]
;B[hp]
;W[cq]
;B[dp]C[Godlike [1d\]: d17 more than 10 points worth
Uberdude [1k\]: humm, why didn't black connect m14?
Uberdude [1k\]: looks like he'd win a semeai
Godbluff [4d\]: cause it would become seki :)
]
;W[eq]
;B[dq]
;W[dr]
;B[hn]C[Uberdude [1k\]: so, if b r3 do you tihnk w can kill?
]
;W[br]C[VasY [4d?\]: no
]
;B[bq]
;W[cr]C[Uberdude [1k\]: if m5 was captured?
robbie10k [1d?\]: is not that un-even :P
robbie10k [1d?\]: r3 !
robbie10k [1d?\]: :>
Godlike [1d\]: b kills nothing
Uberdude [1k\]: b killed c12
Godlike [1d\]: oh
Godlike [1d\]: right...
Avnas [14k\]: and f14
]
;B[qp]C[Avnas [14k\]: what's teh time like now judge?
EYGML2 [-\]: 35min left for Silt , 27min left for Barthel
robbie10k [1d?\]: :) 
EYGML2 [-\]: (im no way a judge ;)
Avnas [14k\]: monitor then =)
Avnas [14k\]: question for the dans, isn't r4 a weaker move for b than r3
Uberdude [1k\]: btw, nicely recorded eygml, its nice to have all the info on your info page
Uberdude [1k\]: avnas, if r3 w gets outside
Illo [1k\]: na waht will he give away?
Illo [1k\]: *what
EYGML2 [-\]: thanks , we were 4 recording yesterday , must say this game is the worst record by far (first black stone was D6 not D4...  and since they stared in blitz , i was able to correct only some times later)
EYGML2 [-\]: stared = started
Avnas [14k\]: to me b starts off attacking weaker by having less freedom
]
;W[qo]
;B[qq]
;W[pq]
;B[ro]
;W[rp]C[Avnas [14k\]: wow
]
;B[rq]
;W[rn]
;B[sp]C[Uberdude [1k\]: s3 wow
]
;W[qn]C[Uberdude [1k\]: i thought q2 better
Avnas [14k\]: that didn't unfold anywhere near what I expected
]
;B[rh]C[Uberdude [1k\]: q2 is snete for a ko
Uberdude [1k\]: actually, this looks quite good for b, get sente to play annoying s12
Avnas [14k\]: should she respond with s10 to maintain most territory and stop advance?
Uberdude [1k\]: he
]
;W[pr]
;B[qr]C[Uberdude [1k\]: s11 maybe, but s11 s10 
Uberdude [1k\]: looks like b ahead
]
;W[dc]
;B[qj]C[Avnas [14k\]: it's done now
measwel [3k?\]: what if w cuts G9?
measwel [3k?\]: nvm
meh [7k\]: nothing.
Avnas [14k\]: too much b spreading like a disease on right
Godlike [1d\]: r10 worth much more than d17
meh [7k\]: if w had played r10 instead of b, would it have lead to a ko, or is there something I'm missing there?
Uberdude [1k\]: i expected w s10
Avnas [14k\]: me too
Avnas [14k\]: w got greedy
Avnas [14k\]: before fully defended
Godlike [1d\]: w should r11 first
]
;W[do]
;B[co]
;W[eo]
;B[bp]C[zima [4k\]: h2 
zima [4k\]: r11 s11 s9 s10 h2 
]
;W[hr]C[Godlike [1d\]: w should r9 next
zima [4k\]: yes..
]
;B[kg]
;W[ke]
;B[bc]
;W[bb]
;B[cc]
;W[cb]
;B[ql]C[bridou [2k?\]: ..
Uberdude [1k\]: not only is b reducing w, he's now making points
Uberdude [1k\]: seems w cut off his nose to spite his face
]
;W[pk]
;B[rl]
;W[pl]
;B[ps]
;W[os]
;B[qs]
;W[or]
;B[ar]
;W[gq]
;B[hq]
;W[fr]C[dima30k [4k?\]: q18
dima30k [4k?\]: ups, no
]
;B[pj]C[bridou [2k?\]: ⌂
]
;W[ac]
;B[bd]C[Uberdude [1k\]: q18 now
]
;W[dd]
;B[de]C[Avnas [14k\]: can w take the e 10 group, it looks like if she plays it right she can
Uberdude [1k\]: no
dima30k [4k?\]: q18 is bad because of K19...
EYGML2 [-\]: not she : he :)
Uberdude [1k\]: d12 dead
Uberdude [1k\]: c8 dead
Uberdude [1k\]: f14 dead
]
;W[ja]
;B[nb]
;W[ob]C[Eternity [9k\]: this game looks like a mess
]
;B[na]C[dima30k [4k?\]: g11
]
;W[oj]C[Godlike [1d\]: w will win
dantesxx [10k\]: what's wrong with silt lately ...
]
;B[qa]C[dima30k [4k?\]: why w?
]
;W[pa]
;B[pb]
;W[cn]
;B[cm]
;W[qb]
;B[iq]
;W[ir]
;B[pb]
;W[sn]
;B[so]
;W[qb]
;B[ml]
;W[mm]
;B[pb]C[daladim [7k\]: t2
]
;W[sr]
;B[rr]C[dima30k [4k?\]: k4
]
;W[qb]
;B[ra]
;W[qk]
;B[rk]
;W[qi]
;B[ri]
;W[pi]
;B[rj]C[Godlike [1d\]: over
Gambate [2d?\]: mm
Shinichi56 [6k\]: its the final?
]
;W[jo]
;B[jn]C[Godlike [1d\]: to me yes
]
;W[qe]C[Ender [7k\]: no
patterns [2k\]: its the game for #3 ;) 
meh [7k\]: it's for 3rd and 4th.
Uberdude [1k\]: this is 3rd 3th place play off
Ender [7k\]: final is over
windupbird [4d\]: this game still very close
]
;B[nd]
;W[qg]C[Uberdude [1k\]: g11 not bigger?
nimra [7k\]: who won 1st?
apagis [1d\]: wasn't r15 bad ?
EYGML2 [-\]: FIDO won
Godlike [1d\]: o16 was huge
]
;B[re]
;W[rg]
;B[sg]C[nimra [7k\]: tnks
jamkin [-\]: what tournament is this?
EYGML2 [-\]: the eygml tournament , made by the players themself
Avnas [14k\]: for details click on EYGML
]
;W[oc]
;B[ne]
;W[nf]C[Avnas [14k\]: European Youth Go Masters league
jamkin [-\]: ok :)
EYGML2 [-\]: byo yomi for Barthel 
EYGML2 [-\]: 5min for 15stones
MoreGo: lol
]
;B[mg]
;W[nh]
;B[qm]
;W[pm]
;B[gp]
;W[fp]
;B[gn]C[Godlike [1d\]: g11
Uberdude [1k\]: yah
MoreGo: am confuse lol so much stuff in there
dima30k [4k?\]: corse
]
;W[hf]
;B[gf]
;W[hg]
;B[hh]C[daladim [7k\]: h11 ?
]
;W[ih]C[MoreGo: what is h1!?
]
;B[gi]C[rayen [1k\]: nice
Bo2000 [5k\]: yes
]
;W[kh]
;B[kj]C[MoreGo: is white losing?
]
;W[ie]C[Avnas [14k\]: godlike called w the winner
sandra91 [6k\]: black f6 
Godlike [1d\]: em
]
;B[ad]
;W[ab]
;B[jp]
;W[ip]
;B[od]C[Avnas [14k\]: I agree, but the margin is tight
]
;W[pe]
;B[jp]
;W[kq]C[Godlike [1d\]: if they played my way....
VasY [4d?\]: ahahah
]
;B[ki]C[dima30k [4k?\]: you had a bad way :)
VasY [4d?\]: :)
]
;W[jh]C[tibul [9k\]: w t 8?
Avnas [14k\]: how many stones left for w?
HnM [3k\]: q18 for black
Godlike [1d\]: 72 for b
MoreGo: white back in control?
Godlike [1d\]: 62+komi for w
]
;B[pb]C[Godlike [1d\]: b+4,5
]
;W[bm]
;B[bl]
;W[qb]C[dima30k [4k?\]: c16 
Uberdude [1k\]: ????
]
;B[ig]C[Uberdude [1k\]: oh, b turn =)
]
;W[if]
;B[pb]
;W[oa]C[MoreGo: y he put a black stone there
dima30k [4k?\]: :)
]
;B[fn]
;W[fm]
;B[fo]
;W[fk]C[Avnas [14k\]: w only has limited number of plays left
]
;B[fj]C[Godlike [1d\]: b+6.5
]
;W[sl]
;B[sk]
;W[sm]C[dima30k [4k?\]: j4
MoreGo: look at g9
]
;B[cd]
;W[db]C[VasY [4d?\]: b1
MoreGo: if white put a stone there wouldn't that e good?
]
;B[bs]
;W[cs]C[Uberdude [1k\]: its cool how g9 cuts yet they are connected round the long way
]
;B[aq]
;W[ip]
;B[as]
;W[jp]C[DeepTuna [10k\]: lol
]
;B[ka]
;W[ia]
;B[qb]C[DeepTuna [10k\]: Don't think G9 is important
GAZ [1k\]: japanse ruleS?
MoreGo: o
DeepTuna [10k\]: because both black groups would live
Uberdude [1k\]: g9 just dame
DeepTuna [10k\]: In chinese rules it would be
]
;W[hi]
;B[gk]
;W[kc]C[DeepTuna [10k\]: it's be +1 :)
MoreGo: he blocked it
Avnas [14k\]: e2
dima30k [4k?\]: silt won?
]
;B[qh]
;W[rm]C[VasY [4d?\]: in tournes filling dame make it eaier to count
Pianist [7d\]: who beat silt?
EYGML2 [-\]: game over , couting
VasY [4d?\]: tourneys*
EYGML2 [-\]: counting
rayen [1k\]: fido beated silt
MoreGo: i think white win :)
Avnas [14k\]: no way
dima30k [4k?\]: ?
DeepTuna [10k\]: no way
DeepTuna [10k\]: lol
Uberdude [1k\]: b wins
dima30k [4k?\]: b+4,5
Uberdude [1k\]: i can use SE!
dima30k [4k?\]: 6,5 komi included
Avnas [14k\]: f b played e2 that would be emphatically over
meh [7k\]: ;p
Uberdude [1k\]: e2 e1
Uberdude [1k\]: its nothing
EYGML2 [-\]: BLACK WON 4.5
Ender [7k\]: two ondrej on the podium ^^
MoreGo: how do you calculate?
MoreGo: am noob
MoreGo: :)
EYGML2 [-\]: you can use the se , players counted themself :)
Pianist [7d\]: how did ondrej lose to fido
rayen [1k\]: you count 1+1
Ender [7k\]: mystery
rayen [1k\]: like in kindergarden
DeepTuna [10k\]: You can instantly count the black group at the bottom right as 6 points
EYGML2 [-\]: thanks for following , this event is now over
MoreGo: eh?
EYGML2 [-\]: congrats all players :)
MoreGo: black win?
MoreGo: .......
kivirch [2d\]: go to http://playgo.to/interactive/
EYGML2 [-\]: yes black won
]))))
