(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]
PW[FIDRMUC Ondrej 4D]PB[TARUMI Jun 4D]WR[4d]BR[4d]DT[2006-11-12]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[EYGML1 [-\]: This is the final game of EYGML. See my info for details
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;B[dp]
;W[pp]
;B[cd]
;W[pc]
;B[ec]
;W[cj]
;B[ch]
;W[cn]
;B[cl]
;W[en]
;B[fp]
;W[bp]
;B[dk]
;W[cq]C[silp [5k?\]: if b wins this game too, then it's a clean sweep
EYGML1 [-\]: yes, all 6 previous game win by black
Javaness [1k\]: my money is on black
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;B[dj]C[Javaness [1k\]: koroshiman is strong
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;W[ip]
;B[go]C[KuudeeKun [4k\]: i go for the odds so W
KuudeeKun [4k\]: ^^
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;W[in]
;B[gm]
;W[jd]C[silp [5k?\]: w does look better
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;B[qf]C[Eternity [9k\]: bottom left.. its like the ying/yang symbol. so pretty
coolkid444 [12k\]: lol
Illo [1k\]: is b sum?
Bembelbote [-\]: of course not :)
]
;W[qd]
;B[qi]C[Eternity [9k\]: thats a weird way to use a sacrificial stone.. humm
Eternity [9k\]: interesting
Eternity [9k\]: (c10)
silp [5k?\]: b is pinguschaf
coolkid444 [12k\]: come again?
DrunkAngel [?\]: his user name
coolkid444 [12k\]: oh
silp [5k?\]: you should have said, bless you, hmm? :p
coolkid444 [12k\]: lol
poketen [5k\]: oh.. but isn't pinguschaf using a french client?
Eternity [9k\]: what do you guys think of blacks decision of giving up the corner? doesn't seem to have any great strategic thinking or anything at this stage
coolkid444 [12k\]: i think b knows what hes doing :P
poketen [5k\]: eternity.. I think the most strategic decision are/have been taken :)
DrunkAngel [?\]: its works to his advatage, clean open base, with many vantage points to invade safely from now
KuudeeKun [4k\]: it least better than us kyus
Eternity [9k\]: clean open base?
]
;W[ph]C[Eternity [9k\]: hmmm
KuudeeKun [4k\]: shoulderhits ^^
quiksilvr [2k\]: black may have less territtory now but at least its all secure
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;B[qh]C[DrunkAngel [?\]: and most czech people I have met, know 4-6 languages, so using french is not a strech to use for his client if hes comfortable with it
silp [5k?\]: w advantage is clear, tough game for b ahead
Eternity [9k\]: hummm
]
;W[pf]
;B[pg]
;W[og]
;B[qg]C[poketen [5k\]: drunkangel, you have a point, but I know few japanese knowing 4-6 languages though :)
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;W[pe]C[Eternity [9k\]: looks like white is preparing for a running fight :o
DrunkAngel [?\]: hehe, same for many north americans, its a european thing
Eternity [9k\]: guess we'll expect an invasion at n16 area =)
coolkid444 [12k\]: good point
]
;B[nq]C[hulken [1k\]: n16 is to deep
coolkid444 [12k\]: m 15?
DrunkAngel [?\]: possible, well see how the bottom goes first
hulken [1k\]: more lik it
poketen [5k\]: maybe just extend H17 then build corner
Eternity [9k\]: i guess f4 group is safe unless its cut from the side by the e6 group
Javaness [1k\]: top right isn't so big
f0rk [6k\]: i don't like m15..
DrunkAngel [?\]: it would only reduce, he cant jump at white's thickness
poketen [5k\]: L15 looks good too
Repacse [3k\]: black seems to be leading
DrunkAngel [?\]: so m15 makes plenty of sence
coolkid444 [12k\]: yay!
coolkid444 [12k\]: lol
Eternity [9k\]: you'd want to nullify the thickness though, my view is that the f4 group is a nice juicy target
silp [5k?\]: shiny pincer
DrunkAngel [?\]: no its an eazy living shape
Javaness [1k\]: p2?
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;W[lq]C[poketen [5k\]: I'd have thought of P3..
hulken [1k\]: where is this tornament held??
Eternity [9k\]: p2 invites the possible creation of j4 weak group...
EYGML1 [-\]: final games in strasbourg, France
hulken [1k\]: ok tnx
f0rk [6k\]: r6 i think
Eternity [9k\]: q4 is more stable than j3, so a pincer is a good idea
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;B[qq]C[Godbluff [4d\]: why isnt silt in the final?
DrunkAngel [?\]: nice
silp [5k?\]: pincer both gives space for w base and denies b base, so it's an easy move to make
EYGML1 [-\]: he lost from 0.5 point the 1/2 final, see my info!
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;W[pq]
;B[qp]
;W[po]
;B[pr]
;W[or]C[Eternity [9k\]: 3,3? wouldn't this be working to white's advantage?
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;B[qr]C[EroSennin [4k\]: i tink so too
tibul [9k\]: seems so
EroSennin [4k\]: b should just jump i feel
wayward [2k\]: it seems okay
Eternity [9k\]: hmm
wayward [2k\]: White is getting crammed
DrunkAngel [?\]: hes in great position like this
]
;W[nr]
;B[qn]C[wayward [2k\]: and is still open around h2
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;W[om]C[poketen [5k\]: I think they see tons of things that we, kyu, don't see, and least comment
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;B[oh]C[Spacemen3 [4d\]: B is a little low on the right
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;W[ng]C[Eternity [9k\]: white seems to have command in the center
Godbluff [4d\]: wow, fido is getting constantly stronger :)
Spacemen3 [4d\]: and F4 stone ended up on dame
wayward [2k\]: would j8 be played anytime soon?
]
;B[hc]C[EroSennin [4k\]: b s pretty much a terr playet
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;W[qm]C[EroSennin [4k\]: hmm
wayward [2k\]: seems important
EroSennin [4k\]: i feel b should play around tengeb
EroSennin [4k\]: w moyo is forming
Javaness [1k\]: hard for white to make a big moyo
DrunkAngel [?\]: very hard
Spacemen3 [4d\]: looks pretty even, territory vs. moyou game
EroSennin [4k\]: hmm
Spacemen3 [4d\]: I always prefer to be on the territory side of those ^^
DrunkAngel [?\]: q6 looks so interesting
tomdraug [7k\]: r7 seems urgent?
Javaness [1k\]: is O12 good for black?
silp [5k?\]: if you don't play for moyo or influence, why play at all :p
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;B[rn]C[tomdraug [7k\]: yes :-)
Bembelbote [-\]: black also, he just loves territory =)
hulken [1k\]: q6 is very bad
wayward [2k\]: j8 would be simple now
tomdraug [7k\]: h8 ok?
Harleqin [3d?\]: black wants p11 now
wayward [2k\]: even
Spacemen3 [4d\]: J15 is key point for the moyous
Eternity [9k\]: k18 seems a good move for white
EroSennin [4k\]: i feel j14 is better?
poketen [5k\]: J 15 looks nice..
Uberdude [1k\]: j15 helps prevent b k17
Eternity [9k\]: although, i'd say something like e8
Harleqin [3d?\]: it's difficult for white now
Eternity [9k\]: is fun
EroSennin [4k\]: y now just dash in
EroSennin [4k\]: h15
Spacemen3 [4d\]: actually H17 was very big... maybe W made an error earlier
robbie10k [1d?\]: white has to many unclosed positions
Spacemen3 [4d\]: now it's not so easy for W to play
robbie10k [1d?\]: :)
Harleqin [3d?\]: there are three big points, which is best?
wayward [2k\]: h15, Black can deflate the moyo with h16 and k17
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;W[he]C[EroSennin [4k\]: i dont feel w is really behind
wayward [2k\]: or not :)
kyokaito [-\]: k18
Javaness [1k\]: H15 seems to amorphous
Eternity [9k\]: this moves looks to splite f4 from the rest of black
Eternity [9k\]: split*
Uberdude [1k\]: ero senin: if w j15 thenk17 l17 l16 j17 k18 j18 
EroSennin [4k\]: yeah dash in with h15 like wat i say earlier
BALLZ [8k\]: i feel w is ahead!
Harleqin [3d?\]: p11 is bigger than k18, i think
silp [5k?\]: better take p11 now
Uberdude [1k\]: or j8?
]
;B[jc]C[kyokaito [-\]: k18 is very big
EroSennin [4k\]: l17
Spacemen3 [4d\]: I would also play K17, not K18
Uberdude [1k\]: so now b punishes w for h15 not j15
Eternity [9k\]: mmm, black likes territory, white likes moyo
quiksilvr [2k\]: black still going for territory
EroSennin [4k\]: no choice but to protect i guess
Uberdude [1k\]: if L17, b can crosscut
EroSennin [4k\]: i dont tink w will scirfice h15
Eternity [9k\]: white can always j17
tomdraug [7k\]: l16 
silp [5k?\]: L17...
]
;W[kc]C[Spacemen3 [4d\]: l17 l16 j17 k18 k15 j18 m17 is standard flow
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;B[kb]C[DrunkAngel [?\]: he doesnt like standard
Spacemen3 [4d\]: L18 is a different standard ^^
tomdraug [7k\]: silp, u're stronger ;-)
DrunkAngel [?\]: hehe
EroSennin [4k\]: i tink b wanna build up even thicker for him to cut 
]
;W[ic]C[silp [5k?\]: except i didn't even think about L18, only L16
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;B[jb]
;W[kd]C[Spacemen3 [4d\]: j17 k18 j16 j18 m17 
Spacemen3 [4d\]: hmmm, L16 is not standard at all
tomdraug [7k\]: heh, l18 is complex move
DrunkAngel [?\]: well black has the key to the moyo
]
;B[id]C[silp [5k?\]: b's territory-obsession is admirable
coolkid444 [12k\]: lmao
stafan [-\]: :D
hulken [1k\]: w probobly wants to jump futher in to b's mojo and thats why l16
]
;W[ie]C[hulken [1k\]: maby?
Spacemen3 [4d\]: playing this way, W gives up a lot of territory
DrunkAngel [?\]: p11 now?
]
;B[lc]C[tibul [9k\]: seems better for b
dantesxx [10k\]: who won?
dantesxx [10k\]: ah nvm
]
;W[hd]C[EroSennin [4k\]: hmm
wayward [2k\]: no, more territory left :D
Spacemen3 [4d\]: but I guess it is consistent with his previous moves
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;B[hb]C[EroSennin [4k\]: maybe b is too obsessive and force w to give up
EroSennin [4k\]: haha
Eternity [9k\]: white must feel that he has enough down bottom
coolkid444 [12k\]: hi vincent!
Spacemen3 [4d\]: I would play H16 instead of M17, though
krisprolls [2k\]: white is going to attack G7 stones
quiksilvr [2k\]: white's territory getting reduced steadily
Spacemen3 [4d\]: this way if W plays M18 you end in sente and later you have G15 hane
kyokaito [-\]: white can play j8
]
;W[oi]
;B[pi]
;W[ni]C[tibul [9k\]: g3 big for w?
Spacemen3 [4d\]: now B destroyed as much of his own potential as he destroyed W's
Snowman8 [17k\]: this is a live game somewhere right?
Uberdude [1k\]: Spacemen3, h16 because then w still has k15 cut and like this b has little territory?
silp [5k?\]: it's live...
tibul [9k\]: yea snowman8
Harleqin [3d?\]: now is a good time to do something for the center
Javaness [1k\]: j8?
Snowman8 [17k\]: where?
hulken [1k\]: yes live in francer
Snowman8 [17k\]: k
Snowman8 [17k\]: thanks
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;B[il]C[Javaness [1k\]: \\o/
coolkid444 [12k\]: theres j 8
Spacemen3 [4d\]: yes, Uberdude - you can probably double hane at G15 later
silp [5k?\]: look in the info of the demo author
wayward [2k\]: oyez!
Spacemen3 [4d\]: because of the K15 cur
Spacemen3 [4d\]: cut
EroSennin [4k\]: j11
Mvx76 [8k\]: Eropean youth go master league
coolkid444 [12k\]: youth....how young?
poketen [5k\]: I wonder if a group could die on a "Death note"
Mvx76 [8k\]: around 20 i think
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;W[qk]C[Spacemen3 [4d\]: anyway, B seems comfortable with playing this way
tomdraug [7k\]: now has both moyo and terr
coolkid444 [12k\]: ah
Uberdude [1k\]: yes, now b top right corner gonna be a lot smaller
silp [5k?\]: upto 22 i think
EroSennin [4k\]: hmm
Harleqin [3d?\]: I think the game is pretty even
coolkid444 [12k\]: not so young then :P
EroSennin [4k\]: r9 seems strange
stafan [-\]: for further information, consult EYGML2's info
EYGML1 [-\]: see in my info link to players profile
EYGML1 [-\]: *there is
Uberdude [1k\]: also, if h16, would w play m18 or take sente do you think?
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;B[pk]C[Spacemen3 [4d\]: would play M18 I think
Harleqin [3d?\]: r9 seems to work against white's plan
Uberdude [1k\]: right, and then b p11
Spacemen3 [4d\]: but then B gets sente, so he should be happy
]
;W[rk]C[silp [5k?\]: lool
Uberdude [1k\]: r11 not alive....
]
;B[oj]C[silp [5k?\]: b gonna get killed
tomdraug [7k\]: b under fire 
Eternity [9k\]: hah, white wants to attack r11
Harleqin [3d?\]: white seems intent to kill here
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;W[nj]C[EroSennin [4k\]: yeah
poketen [5k\]: B cut?
EroSennin [4k\]: s9 shows his killing intention
poketen [5k\]: Q8 works?
Mvx76 [8k\]: y
]
;B[nk]C[Godbluff [4d\]: q8 - q7, r8- s7
Javaness [1k\]: death is not an option
wayward [2k\]: q8: connect q7, then connect on 1st line
silp [5k?\]: if this lives, then the moyo becomes a moot point...
]
;W[mk]
;B[nl]
;W[ol]
;B[ok]C[EroSennin [4k\]: got a feeling w gonna mess up and b gonna destroy the moyo
Empiror [6d\]: what game is this?
Javaness [1k\]: european youth go master's league
Javaness [1k\]: the final i think
EroSennin [4k\]: some euro youth mater league
Empiror [6d\]: thx
wayward [2k\]: matter*
]
;W[ml]
;B[nm]C[coolkid444 [12k\]: there went whites moyo
Empiror [6d\]: how young are the players?
coolkid444 [12k\]: 20 or so
kyokaito [-\]: b is not alive
Harleqin [3d?\]: white is betting the game on the kill
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;W[on]C[wayward [2k\]: and rightly so, it seems
Empiror [6d\]: 20 ys old?
coolkid444 [12k\]: around there i think no?
Talamus [3k?\]: W has 16
DrunkAngel [?\]: q8 
silp [5k?\]: b is 18 years old
sepsis [8k\]: how strong are these two?
Eternity [9k\]: q8 doesn't cut, but you enter into a kill or be killed
coolkid444 [12k\]: 4d
DrunkAngel [?\]: mid dan
stafan [-\]: both 4d
EYGML1 [-\]: see profile of players whith link in my info (ages, nationality, KGS nick, achievement ...)
silp [5k?\]: w is 16 years old...
poketen [5k\]: Tarumi Jun is 18 y.o.
tibul [9k\]: it says by there names
sepsis [8k\]: thanks
robbie10k [1d?\]: when does Antii play again?
Godbluff [4d\]: black s15?
EYGML1 [-\]: Antii was qualified but could not make the trip to strasbourg, sorry for his fan
EYGML1 [-\]: +s
poketen [5k\]: http://wang-z.com/eygml2006/players.php?pid=6    for the details of the players
kyokaito [-\]: s10,s15,s14,s13,t10,t9,t12
Godbluff [4d\]: what about black s15?
Godbluff [4d\]: how will white kill?
wayward [2k\]: I would like to say that there is a brilliant tesuji with which Black lives
echowhisky [4k\]: I think W got a lot out of K17?
silp [5k?\]: w got sente from it
silp [5k?\]: p11 may turn out to be bigger than expected ;)
tibul [9k\]: b q7?
wayward [2k\]: r9 too
EroSennin [4k\]: i still feel q8 cut is workable
DrunkAngel [?\]: its not...
silp [5k?\]: what does q8 do?
Eternity [9k\]: q7 q8 
Eternity [9k\]: still connected
DrunkAngel [?\]: q8 q7 r8 s7 s8 t8 
hulken [1k\]: q8 dos not cut pleas read before
EroSennin [4k\]: q8 first
DrunkAngel [?\]: white can connect through
EroSennin [4k\]: q8 then q7 or r8
]
;B[mj]C[tibul [9k\]: q7 looks good to me
Godbluff [4d\]: i find no way to kill black s15
echowhisky [4k\]: but maybe B wants to live in sente ?
DrunkAngel [?\]: s15 t12 
Harleqin [3d?\]: godbluff: b s15, w s11 ?
]
;W[mi]C[silp [5k?\]: maybe s15 before cut...
Harleqin [3d?\]: or t11 or t12
quiksilvr [2k\]: black should be able to live
Empiror [6d\]: uhm ...
solarkoka [15k\]: omg am I the weakest person here?
tibul [9k\]: no i am
Fredda [5d?\]: ^^
quiksilvr [2k\]: no
tibul [9k\]: lol
poketen [5k\]: :)
wayward [2k\]: I am
quiksilvr [2k\]: i spot a 24k?
DrunkAngel [?\]: no, its me, the man of no rank
tetris [-\]: me tooo
wayward [2k\]: pariah :)
tetris [-\]: too
tetris [-\]: me too!!!
solarkoka [15k\]: well I still don`t get a thing from what you are speculating here
wayward [2k\]: don't worry, neither do we
solarkoka [15k\]: lol
Harleqin [3d?\]: m7 now?
DrunkAngel [?\]: shut it tetris, before I go to the ToG dojo and kick your skinny white butt
tetris [-\]: he fixed it so b souldn't get atari wtihi oo13 and get out
tetris [-\]: are you crazy?
poketen [5k\]: where are we on time??
DrunkAngel [?\]: ^__^
Eternity [9k\]: no tetris, he's drunk
tetris [-\]: yep you're crazy
tetris [-\]: i see
tetris [-\]: how do you know?
EYGML1 [-\]: 42min Tarumi / 37 min Fidrmuc left before byo yomi
Eternity [9k\]: well, can't say the two aren't mutual
Eternity [9k\]: tetris - justa  feeling
DrunkAngel [?\]: hehe
tetris [-\]: i see
DrunkAngel [?\]: you should respect the yahoo
solarkoka [15k\]: are u a psychic eternity?
silp [5k?\]: b focused so much on territory, but is he a fighter...
Godbluff [4d\]: i still think b s15 lives :-)
wayward [2k\]: Black is in a bit of a danger
Godbluff [4d\]: neither w t12 or w s11 kills...
DrunkAngel [?\]: is M7 too crazy?
Godbluff [4d\]: because b always can q8 etc
]
;B[mm]C[Harleqin [3d?\]: hum
DrunkAngel [?\]: guess os
Godbluff [4d\]: and weaken the two stones at s9
Javaness [1k\]: M7 feels worse than N7
silp [5k?\]: this doesn't look good for b
DrunkAngel [?\]: I just keep wondering if he sees a way to use that aji... cause I sure dont see any
wayward [2k\]: Gobluff, isn't it true that White would be able to cut at q10 in those combinations?
wayward [2k\]: at least that's what I read
wayward [2k\]: Godbluff* pardon me
silp [5k?\]: m7
quiksilvr [2k\]: should black play r10 before white has a chance to?
Godbluff [4d\]: :)
silver2k4 [?\]: b s15 w s11 
quiksilvr [2k\]: r10 threatens to live on the next move
quiksilvr [2k\]: but if white plays r10 first black could end up losing the tail or even everything
]
;W[lm]C[Javaness [1k\]: there is so much room i can't believe black will die
Gaijin [11k\]: has there been any focus on splitting the weak upper group
Gaijin [11k\]: ?
]
;B[ln]
;W[km]C[wayward [2k\]: weak upper group, where? :)
]
;B[re]C[silp [5k?\]: now s11...
Eternity [9k\]: hehe
silp [5k?\]: does it really live?
]
;W[ri]C[wayward [2k\]: Godbluff, we get to see your variation :)
silver2k4 [?\]: no 2 eyes there
wayward [2k\]: ah, nice, W connects at r10
]
;B[rm]
;W[ql]C[tomdraug [7k\]: s16 makes no base?
silp [5k?\]: well, dead now
kivirch [2d\]: ah, why s7?
Eternity [9k\]: desperation move i believe
echowhisky [4k\]: maybe B wanna try kill too
solarkoka [15k\]: misread of situation?
]
;B[lp]C[silver2k4 [?\]: he got a plan
Javaness [1k\]: maybe we misread
Eternity [9k\]: humm, black trying to kill
silp [5k?\]: blasphemy :p
Eternity [9k\]: kill or be killed
Eternity [9k\]: haha, this is getting exciting
Javaness [1k\]: from here to eternity
DrunkAngel [?\]: its a Captain kind of answer to things
wayward [2k\]: "Attach?  Extend!"
tibul [9k\]: thats caps answer to everything ^^
wayward [2k\]: "Anything?  Attach!"
]
;W[kn]C[fresh: ???
DrunkAngel [?\]: he doesnt read the kill try?
Empiror [6d\]: b is finished
]
;B[no]C[Eternity [9k\]: making an eye!
solarkoka [15k\]: o6?
wayward [2k\]: pretty much anything will do now
]
;W[lo]C[Eternity [9k\]: no eye now
solarkoka [15k\]: ya
Eternity [9k\]: and no idea what black is going to do next
Eternity [9k\]: ;)
wayward [2k\]: n3 is somewhat disquieting
Empiror [6d\]: resign
wayward [2k\]: if only for the bottom
silp [5k?\]: trying to get something out of p3, but no cookie
Spacemen3 [4d\]: N4 threatens both P3 and L3, doesn't it?
Spacemen3 [4d\]: and it protects O6 cut
Empiror [6d\]: is b crying?
wayward [2k\]: nice idea Spaceman3
solarkoka [15k\]: mayv=be
solarkoka [15k\]: maybe*
ataraxie [7k?\]: p5
Gaijin [11k\]: any thoughts about l5?
silver2k4 [?\]: n5 
royalcrew [1k\]: n6
wayward [2k\]: come on!  Big groups don't die.
solarkoka [15k\]: u sure?
xDarigaaz [2k\]: you are naive :)
wayward [2k\]: it's a proverb
Spacemen3 [4d\]: I really think N4 gets out of trouble
solarkoka [15k\]: yeah i heard it
DrunkAngel [?\]: n4 is the most playable scenario b ythe looks of it
Ender [7k\]: n4 dsnt make an eye dst it?
poketen [5k\]: He is busy writing a "Death note" .. 
DrunkAngel [?\]: but it doesnt solve anything
pictureman: proverbs are like guardrails to ideas. every once in a while, they fail to hold
Kilik [2k\]: lol poke
Gaijin [11k\]: wouldnt wL7 follow bN4?
Spacemen3 [4d\]: N4 solves the O6 cut and has two continuations, P3 and L3
Spacemen3 [4d\]: I don't see anything better
EYGML1 [-\]: 30min before byo yomi for both players
solarkoka [15k\]: btw just asking how close d kgs to real life d?
Gaijin [11k\]: closer now than it was 2  months ago
wayward [2k\]: depends on the ranking system
DrunkAngel [?\]: depends on the ranking system
wayward [2k\]: there isn't a real "real life" system
daladim [7k\]: i dont see how n4 saves the o6 cut
DrunkAngel [?\]: theres too many
Spacemen3 [4d\]: I'm 4.dan in real life
Spacemen3 [4d\]: in europe
Uberdude [1k\]: daladim:n4 o6 n6 n5 l5 
wayward [2k\]: I know a guy who's 9d in his village
DrunkAngel [?\]: EGF for instance is a ranking system these players are also ranked as
quiksilvr [2k\]: but dan ranking in real life is also not indicative of professional rank
daladim [7k\]: ah yea forgot q8 b liberty
VasY [4d?\]: european sys +/- same as kgs yes
wayward [2k\]: now is?
wayward [2k\]: after the refitting?
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;B[rd]
;W[rc]C[Robinsa [11k\]: ^^
tomdraug [7k\]: 7k kgs is more or less 7k europe, too?
DrunkAngel [?\]: I think it differs at lower ranks, but it is for the most part
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;B[oq]C[DrunkAngel [?\]: like anyone 12 kyu and there on
solarkoka [15k\]: kk
VasY [4d?\]: yup tom
quiksilvr [2k\]: wow
solarkoka [15k\]: n3 now?
wayward [2k\]: B trying to get the most out of s12-r10?
pictureman: the equivelance of rating sysrems seems odd to me because of the precvelance of bloitz games in on-line play
DrunkAngel [?\]: he didnt del with the cut
pictureman: blitz*
tomdraug [7k\]: thx, then I feel well :-)
Kontumaz: O6
DrunkAngel [?\]: o6 should be game
Spacemen3 [4d\]: W O6 now works as far as I can see
tibul [9k\]: what if u never play blitz online
daladim [7k\]: yea o6
Spacemen3 [4d\]: but I find it hard to believe B missed this -- he probably has some kind of evil plan ^^
Spacemen3 [4d\]: which might or might not work
solarkoka [15k\]: or he just missed it
erikk [2d?\]: n3 works?
tomdraug [7k\]: I was surprised with my cgoban 3 genius rank increase :-)
Javaness [1k\]: good old cut
pictureman: dunno. but certainly there's a different kind of play at speeds greatly ccelerated from tourny play
DrunkAngel [?\]: well he could be aiming at seki
erikk [2d?\]: hmm no
Oumpopotte [5d\]: o3
Spacemen3 [4d\]: right, I see it now
Spacemen3 [4d\]: o6 n6 n5 l5 n4 n3 l4 o4 k5 n2 
KakureKage [11k\]: whats is this 'special event'if i may ask
babucho2 [1k\]: if w n3 b will go p5
Spacemen3 [4d\]: W cannot cut through without getting cut off himself
Oumpopotte [5d\]: n3 even simpler
pictureman: see EYGML info kku
EYGML1 [-\]: kakurekage, see my info (as in most special event)
erikk [2d?\]: n3 o6
solarkoka [15k\]: o6 n6 n5 l5 n4?
Javaness [1k\]: this event is bigger than the euro go congress :)
Godlike [1d\]: b outread w
DrunkAngel [?\]: well more fan favorites it seems
Oumpopotte [5d\]: if N3 , N5
Spacemen3 [4d\]: n3 l5 n6 o6 o4 p5 
Repacse [3k\]: so white is cut off anyway
Oumpopotte [5d\]: so N3 not ok
Spacemen3 [4d\]: looks like the tables have turned...
Spacemen3 [4d\]: now W is the one getting killed
wayward [2k\]: W will want to play s12 then?
Oumpopotte [5d\]: o3 seems to work for w
silp [5k?\]: you mean o4 ?
Godlike [1d\]: w will resign now
guest101 [7k\]: except that it is occupied :S
solarkoka [15k\]: why?
erikk [2d?\]: o4 works
Godlike [1d\]: o4 doesn't work
Repacse [3k\]: o4 n4 and ?
VasY [4d?\]: no, w cut
Spacemen3 [4d\]: works in what sense?
lipa: o6 ?
erikk [2d?\]: :not :)
solarkoka [15k\]: o6 n6 n5?
wayward [2k\]: Spacemen3 [4d\]: o6 n6 n5 l5 n4 n3 l4 o4 k5 n2 
VasY [4d?\]: just shibori on black, and w cut, losing semeai on right side
Godlike [1d\]: o4, p4
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;W[nn]
;B[mn]
;W[mo]
;B[ko]
;W[mp]
;B[mq]
;W[kp]
;B[np]
;W[jo]
;B[mr]C[tibul [9k\]: nice
wayward [2k\]: only White has an eye at q8
Spacemen3 [4d\]: and now what, mister W?
Godlike [1d\]: resign
VasY [4d?\]: not the best
echowhisky [4k\]: W just died??
EYGML1 [-\]: sequence in a row
silver2k4 [?\]: s12 
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;W[rh]
;B[rg]C[wayward [2k\]: ppl, W can get a 2nd eye :)
solarkoka [15k\]: t14?
Javaness [1k\]: he can?
wayward [2k\]: well, yeah
echowhisky [4k\]: where second eye???
DrunkAngel [?\]: I dont see it
Godlike [1d\]: hmmm
silver2k4 [?\]: r10 
Godlike [1d\]: I wonder
Eternity [9k\]: q8 forces an eye
nitram1 [1k\]: q8 sente
wayward [2k\]: I don't see the first one though
wayward [2k\]: second one is q8
Oumpopotte [5d\]: the fight seems good for W
silver2k4 [?\]: yes
Spacemen3 [4d\]: Q8 can make one eye, but then the other one doesn't work
silp [5k?\]: q8 q6 1 eye in gote...
wayward [2k\]: aye
Spacemen3 [4d\]: have to reduce liberties
nodan [2k?\]: w one eye
babucho2 [1k\]: SEMEAI
Godbluff [4d\]: i think w wins the semeai
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;W[qj]C[solarkoka [15k\]: so q8 and r10 are eyes?
]
;B[pj]C[VasY [4d?\]: b dead
Eternity [9k\]: white has advantage here
Oumpopotte [5d\]: T14 now
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;W[sd]C[babucho2 [1k\]: yeah w is going to win
babucho2 [1k\]: or will it be ko?
Javaness [1k\]: i hope for ko
Eternity [9k\]: ko would be ugly
solarkoka [15k\]: i hope for w win
Eternity [9k\]: and white will ignore black threat, because that ko is HUGE
nodan [2k?\]: ko, but good for w
babucho2 [1k\]: if w win he will win the tournament?
nodan [2k?\]: w win
EYGML1 [-\]: will be the first itm white win in the games plays in strasbourg
EYGML1 [-\]: *time
babucho2 [1k\]: will have more rounds?
wayward [2k\]: really?  Blacks won them all? :)
wayward [2k\]: you guys should increase komi
EYGML1 [-\]: yes win the   tournament 
wayward [2k\]: ok :)
EYGML1 [-\]: yes
solarkoka [15k\]: lol a person who doesn`t know this is go we are talking about might think this is a racist talk
EYGML1 [-\]: see scores in my info, strange but black win all the game until now
DrunkAngel [?\]: what format was the tournament played in?
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;B[sj]C[pictureman: is absolute time common in these tournaments?
Spacemen3 [4d\]: qualifying league, then knockout
DrunkAngel [?\]: ahh ok
babucho2 [1k\]: even black won before rounds, w will be the champion if he win this only game?
EYGML1 [-\]: 60min + byo yomi
DrunkAngel [?\]: thats the idea
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;W[sk]
;B[sh]
;W[rj]C[Javaness [1k\]: i hope if doesn't end as seki
pictureman: oh. your info says 1 hour absolute
DrunkAngel [?\]: q7 ?
Javaness [1k\]: Q6
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;B[pn]
;W[oo]C[EYGML1 [-\]: time in the game yes, not in my info
silver2k4 [?\]: at least ko
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;B[rl]C[babucho2 [1k\]: is w confident?
wayward [2k\]: White has one extra liberty at m2
Repacse [3k\]: w has too many libs
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;W[lr]
;B[os]C[Javaness [1k\]: if black keeps playing the moves i suggest he will lose
silp [5k?\]: this ko isn't something b can win...
tomdraug [7k\]: b will win this, I think
Oumpopotte [5d\]: game over
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;W[sf]
;B[sg]C[Spacemen3 [4d\]: W wins this semeai
wayward [2k\]: no eye...
wayward [2k\]: no ko
tomdraug [7k\]: oO
DrunkAngel [?\]: hmmm
wayward [2k\]: ah
solarkoka [15k\]: what about r15?
wayward [2k\]: silly me
Godlike [1d\]: t11 suicide. t15 kill
Sjoerd [2k\]: no ko also means b dont have to fill up o1 right
Spacemen3 [4d\]: simply T15 wins by one move
wayward [2k\]: r15 would be giving away one liberty
tomdraug [7k\]: I forgot p4 lol
Javaness [1k\]: p4 is the problem
k30kPlus [6d\]: w won
Godlike [1d\]: actually
echowhisky [4k\]: must they play it out? -_-'' just count liberties lol
theolddan [2d\]: if w t11 p4 is worth 2 libs -> Taking t10 is better i think
k30kPlus [6d\]: dido will not mis
k30kPlus [6d\]: *fido
Spacemen3 [4d\]: T11 T15 then W has to fight a ko
Godlike [1d\]: b will resign
Spacemen3 [4d\]: W better just T15
k30kPlus [6d\]: more steps ko
Spacemen3 [4d\]: sure, but killing cleanly is better than ko anyway
Godlike [1d\]: come onnnnnn ply t15 already
Sjoerd [2k\]: Did White read this al out when playing o6 ?
emk [2k\]: oh fido playing 
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;W[se]C[VasY [4d?\]: both work, ha can't fail 
VasY [4d?\]: he*
Repacse [3k\]: perhaps he will play tenuki
hype [4k\]: ooh
k30kPlus [6d\]: hehe
k30kPlus [6d\]: better
hype [4k\]: b can't p4
mariosoft [1d\]: q8
Godlike [1d\]: he can
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;B[qo]C[k30kPlus [6d\]: ?
DrunkAngel [?\]: well I guess he wants to see it captured
daladim [7k\]: q8 sounded better
VasY [4d?\]: t11
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;W[pl]
;B[sl]
;W[qe]C[ZJunSama: over
k30kPlus [6d\]: hahaha
EYGML1 [-\]: black resign
emk [2k\]: cool =)
EYGML1 [-\]: Fido is the champion
wayward [2k\]: cheers to the Czeshs
chrpa [1k\]: congratulation ,huráá
k30kPlus [6d\]: cogratz to fido from "pisa"
tetris [-\]: w dead, what are they bothering ot o on for?
wayward [2k\]: s/s/c/
EYGML1 [-\]: will go back with a huge cup
emk [2k\]: grats from emk =)
Eternity [9k\]: white dead tetris?
solarkoka [15k\]: lol
wayward [2k\]: thank you for broadcasting this for us, EYGML*
solarkoka [15k\]: even i can see its not
measwel [3k?\]: was this the championship game?
EYGML1 [-\]: first white victory inthis final phase in strasbourg
solarkoka [15k\]: he made a world record?
Spacemen3 [4d\]: first and only, by the looks of the other game ^^
emk [2k\]: oh fido won vs silt hehe
solarkoka [15k\]: what`s silt?
bridou [2k?\]: ?
Godbluff [4d\]: yes with half a point :)
tetris [-\]: w's turn?  play n1
emk [2k\]: very cool ^^
DrunkAngel [?\]: well Im off to watch the davinci code... still kinda pissed about the discrepencies between it and the book
EYGML1 [-\]: see the EYGML2 fot 3rd and 4th place
tetris [-\]: oh no
tetris [-\]: forget that
Eternity [9k\]: tetris, read better :(
EYGML1 [-\]: whit slit ondrej 6D  playing
dima30k [4k?\]: w won?
solarkoka [15k\]: ye
tetris [-\]: :)
Sgarobo [7k\]: is the game over?
solarkoka [15k\]: b will resign
tetris [-\]: w s11 i giess?
EYGML1 [-\]: GAME IS OVER
bridou [2k?\]: hehe
EYGML1 [-\]: BLACK RESIGN
bridou [2k?\]: haha
EYGML1 [-\]: thx you all for watching
JiT [5k\]: thx so
Sgarobo [7k\]: thx to u 
tetris [-\]: yep
tetris [-\]: oh, then cay near us,sorry
emk [2k\]: was there any sponsor or all payed by the players? ^^
tetris [-\]: very easy kill
EYGML1 [-\]: strasbourg city pays for best players travel
EYGML1 [-\]: and his club
emk [2k\]: ok
EYGML1 [-\]: oterwise all was made by players themselves
solarkoka [15k\]: why isn`t b resigning yet?
Pingu007 [2d\]: look up
dantesxx [10k\]: lol
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