(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]
SZ[19]RU[AGA]KM[5.50]TM[]
PB[ChampFr]PW[ChampFr]DT[2002-08-23]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Texto [8k\]: hello all
Bastaman [11k\]: yoho
ChampFr [-\]: Jean Michel (W) 4d vs. Bernard Helmstetter (B) 4d
PetaWilson [6k?\]: I like the hat
Texto [8k\]: bon alors , ca commence ? 
Bastaman [11k\]: les joueurs ont combien de temps?
ChampFr [-\]: 1H15 par joueur
ChampFr [-\]: byo yomi de 15 pierres pour 5 minutes
Bastaman [11k\]: merci
karmaGfa [29k\]: c'est long
karmaGfa [29k\]: Hi nak
]
;B[dp]CR[dp]
;W[pd]CR[pd]C[Nak [30k\]: hey karmaGfa
]
;B[dc]CR[dc]C[PetaWilson [6k?\]: score est. shows b is winning :-)
]
;W[pp]CR[pp]
;B[nc]CR[nc]
;W[pj]CR[pj]C[PetaWilson [6k?\]: sanrensei?
]
;B[ne]CR[ne]
;W[qf]CR[qf]C[PetaWilson [6k?\]: b going for a moyo-strategy here?
]
;B[jd]CR[jd]C[ikkentobi [10k\]: can the players see this?
Bastaman [11k\]: should we guess moves?
Bastaman [11k\]: nope
benoit [1k\]: this game is actually played on a real board.
Bastaman [11k\]: it is relayed...
]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[dh]CR[dh]C[PetaWilson [6k?\]: so there is no interference from the players
ikkentobi [10k\]: ah i see
ikkentobi [10k\]: i don't understand white's move though
Bastaman [11k\]: would look nice for black to play there
eon [5k?\]: if a bit slow
]
;W[ec]CR[ec]C[PetaWilson [6k?\]: d15 was a kakari against the corner
ikkentobi [10k\]: avalanche?
PetaWilson [6k?\]: nope
]
;B[dd]CR[dd]
;W[ed]CR[ed]
;B[ee]CR[ee]
;W[ce]CR[ce]C[PetaWilson [6k?\]: d12 attcks and now w tries to make a fight of it
PetaWilson [6k?\]: e18 here maybe?
BigDoug [28k?\]: pardon me for asking, but how long do these games normally take to play?
Texto [8k\]: 1.15
Texto [8k\]: each
BigDoug [28k?\]: thanks
Texto [8k\]: welcome
karmaGfa [29k\]: rhaaaa ... we cannot do undo to look ..
ChampFr [-\]: use option->analyse
BigDoug [28k?\]: would it be worthwhile for black to play at G17?
eon [5k?\]: options/view offline in english
ikkentobi [10k\]: guess the move?
]
;B[db]CR[db]
;W[eb]CR[eb]
;B[cd]CR[cd]C[PetaWilson [6k?\]: w in trouble it seems
BigDoug [28k?\]: can black live in the corner if he can't escape?
Texto [8k\]: yes white b18 if sente of course
eon [5k?\]: b wants to live in the corner and split white
]
;W[bf]CR[bf]C[Texto [8k\]: black i meant...
BigDoug [28k?\]: my apologies for my beginner-type questions
Texto [8k\]: u dont have to apologize...
eon [5k?\]: never apologise for questions
ikkentobi [10k\]: i don't understand white's last move though
PetaWilson [6k?\]: questions are allright
]
;B[bd]CR[bd]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[ci]CR[ci]C[BigDoug [28k?\]: isn't G17 for black or H17 for white worthwhile now?
PetaWilson [6k?\]: corner looks alive to me, but not 100% sure
karmaGfa [29k\]: white is good
eon [5k?\]: carpenters square?
PetaWilson [6k?\]: well w is also split in 2
benoit [1k\]: corner is alive yes
killer246 [6k?\]: haen
benoit [1k\]: if white B18 black can B15 in sente
killer246 [6k?\]: puud mak 
ikkentobi [10k\]: white's officially in trouble:)
BigDoug [28k?\]: are these professional or strong amateur players?
PetaWilson [6k?\]: guess amateurs
eon [5k?\]: a little less strong amateurs
benoit [1k\]: strong amateur
PetaWilson [6k?\]: since it`s France C.
ChampFr [-\]: french 4d ama
benoit [1k\]: about 5d or KGS
benoit [1k\]: 5d KGS I mean
BigDoug [28k?\]: if white moves to C12 to connect, will black run down to D9 or 10 to create a wall?
]
;B[gd]CR[gd]
;W[fd]CR[fd]
;B[gc]CR[gc]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: I think W is already connected from the first line
benoit [1k\]: white is already connected
Texto [8k\]: hum....wait black stone before ...
]
;W[ff]CR[ff]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: or 2nd
]
;B[eg]CR[eg]
;W[he]CR[he]C[ikkentobi [10k\]: black attack seems to backfire?
benoit [1k\]: not yet maybe
PetaWilson [6k?\]: looks complicated
Texto [8k\]: dont forget the big  B18
benoit [1k\]: white has 2 blind groups, black only one
]
;B[id]CR[id]
;W[gh]CR[gh]
;B[bg]CR[bg]C[PetaWilson [6k?\]: shicho?
BigDoug [28k?\]: black plays C9 to attack and connect?
ikkentobi [10k\]: oops :)
]
;W[cg]CR[cg]
;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[bh]CR[bh]
;B[bi]CR[bi]
;W[ag]CR[ag]
;B[cj]CR[cj]
;W[df]CR[df]C[benoit [1k\]: good enough for black...
PetaWilson [6k?\]: now the other w group getting weaker
BigDoug [28k?\]: yes
ikkentobi [10k\]: white gets to play a ladder breaker?
]
;B[di]CR[di]C[PetaWilson [6k?\]: not anymore
]
;W[gj]CR[gj]C[PetaWilson [6k?\]: o3?
BigDoug [28k?\]: is it too early for either player to extend near the lower part of the board?
benoit [1k\]: N4?
PetaWilson [6k?\]: now would be a good time
karmaGfa [29k\]: benoit: why N4 more than O3 ?
benoit [1k\]: I don't know, just afeeling
karmaGfa [29k\]: ah
BigDoug [28k?\]: that's why i'm confused about the timing of playing G10.  it seems sort of small
benoit [1k\]: O3 can be answered at M3
PetaWilson [6k?\]: well w had to defend his group with G10
minismurf [4d?\]: urgent points before big points
minismurf [4d?\]: listen to the proverbs and you will become a stronger padowan
BigDoug [28k?\]: yes, of course.  no wonder i'm a 28k   8-)
PetaWilson [6k?\]: what`s the proverb for the next move?
karmaGfa [29k\]: :)
minismurf [4d?\]: corners, sides, then the center
]
;B[hi]CR[hi]
;W[gi]CR[gi]C[eon [5k?\]: lol
minismurf [4d?\]: but this proverb makes it hard to choose the exact point
minismurf [4d?\]: and black did not agree with me :)
PetaWilson [6k?\]: lol
eon [5k?\]: b had played on corner and side already
PetaWilson [6k?\]: maybe he has other proverbs
ikkentobi [10k\]: my thought was k11
]
;B[fg]CR[fg]C[iO [-\]: go proverb : don't listen to go proverbs
lash [4k\]: i think G10 will limit the hight of black's moyo
benoit [1k\]: go proverb:" go proverbs don't apply to white"
PetaWilson [6k?\]: no, G10 was defence first
Glorrandir [1d\]: G10 was both
lash [4k\]: i mean in future
PetaWilson [6k?\]: hm ok
eon [5k?\]: a good kikashi is never bad
karmaGfa [29k\]: G13 ?
]
;W[gg]CR[gg]C[PetaWilson [6k?\]: h14?
karmaGfa [29k\]: Yes, I won ^_^
PetaWilson [6k?\]: lol
]
;B[ig]CR[ig]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: J15 ?
BigDoug [28k?\]: you win the blue cap on the right side of the screen.  congratulations
ikkentobi [10k\]: should be the only move... i think
eon [5k?\]: j15 doesn't stop g14
potato9 [18k\]: h14
PetaWilson [6k?\]: w under attack , should defend?
]
;W[dg]CR[dg]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: yeah, H14
]
;B[eh]CR[eh]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: A11
karmaGfa [29k\]: a?
benoit [1k\]: now B&( is not sente, so, is black corner absolutly alive ?
karmaGfa [29k\]: Oops :-)
benoit [1k\]: B15
benoit [1k\]: I guess so
varg [2k\]: you mean it is carpenters square with an additional liberty?
]
;W[ih]CR[ih]C[benoit [1k\]: yep
benoit [1k\]: but also A15 is sente
ikkentobi [10k\]: i dunno why that exchange
]
;B[jg]CR[jg]
;W[hg]CR[hg]C[lash [4k\]: J12 is defence for G14
PetaWilson [6k?\]: well b seems to have gained a bit by playing k13
BigDoug [28k?\]: since black is alive, on left side, can he just move to the lower side for bigger areas of play?
PetaWilson [6k?\]: yes
]
;B[jh]CR[jh]C[BigDoug [28k?\]: i don't understand why they are spending so much time in such a small area at this point of the game
]
;W[ji]CR[ji]
;B[ki]CR[ki]
;W[jj]CR[jj]C[ikkentobi [10k\]: black's attacking to gain profit
PetaWilson [6k?\]: it`s all about the life of the w group here that matters
benoit [1k\]: just because the life of white group is at stake
tippanni [28k\]: is it possible for me to see how the opening moves went now...?
xor [4k\]: yes, options, save to disk
BigDoug [28k?\]: yes, now i understand.  thank you
benoit [1k\]: use option-> analyze
tippanni [28k\]: ok
tippanni [28k\]: thanks
]
;B[kj]CR[kj]
;W[jk]CR[jk]
;B[kk]CR[kk]
;W[jl]CR[jl]C[potato9 [18k\]: They have plenty of time, Doug
varg [2k\]: B wants to do something on the right? 
ikkentobi [10k\]: with this thickness, white's right is naked
PetaWilson [6k?\]: hm, probably later
benoit [1k\]: It seems to me black is not achieving much here...
tippanni [28k\]: i don't have the analyse options :)
varg [2k\]: yep, but blacks left will suffer a bit too
benoit [1k\]: tippanni, are you using the client?
xor [4k\]: tippani: view offline
BigDoug [28k?\]: press options, then view off-line, tippanni
tippanni [28k\]: ok....
tippanni [28k\]: yes i am using the client
benoit [1k\]: ...
benoit [1k\]: strange
BigDoug [28k?\]: yes?
benoit [1k\]: nevermind
ikkentobi [10k\]: i'm putting my money on a move on a right side :)
]
;B[dn]CR[dn]C[zebotch [6k\]: like r12 ?
Glorrandir [1d\]: not yet
karmaGfa [29k\]: ikkentobi, what's your credit card number ? ;-)
]
;W[dm]CR[dm]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: E7 ?
benoit [1k\]: ok I bet on white for this game
ikkentobi [10k\]: there goes my money
BigDoug [28k?\]: i'll put all my enron shares on this next move.....
tippanni [28k\]: i am taking your bet... with my worldcom holding :)
PetaWilson [6k?\]: hm, haven`t got a clue
ikkentobi [10k\]: hmm.. big gambler :)
BigDoug [28k?\]: note that author andersen will verify that our bets are honest and true
ikkentobi [10k\]: 5 bucks on c7
PetaWilson [6k?\]: e7 looks playable
killer246 [6k?\]: bdfghhfblack susu
killer246 [6k?\]: black susu _"_
ikkentobi [10k\]: no point in e7 since white's center group is ok now?
BigDoug [28k?\]: if black plays o10, does he have a big area of the centre staked out?
]
;B[em]CR[em]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: Yes
]
;W[cn]CR[cn]C[ikkentobi [10k\]: that'll be too small, bigdoug
karmaGfa [29k\]: I won again ^_^
karmaGfa [29k\]: D8 ?
ikkentobi [10k\]: damn.. there goes my 5 bucks
]
;B[do]CR[do]C[BigDoug [28k?\]: k4?
varg [2k\]: lol
karmaGfa [29k\]: H6
ikkentobi [10k\]: c6 a mistake?
karmaGfa [29k\]: no .. D8
tippanni [28k\]: shoudln't white be playing in that region itself, around cd?
ikkentobi [10k\]: or can this invasion work?
BigDoug [28k?\]: perhaps white can play at C9
PetaWilson [6k?\]: K3?
]
;W[cl]CR[cl]C[BigDoug [28k?\]: missed it by -that- much
PetaWilson [6k?\]: ok, try again, e8?
BigDoug [28k?\]: would black e9 be an option as well?
karmaGfa [29k\]: D8 seems dangerous
]
;B[dl]CR[dl]
;W[cm]CR[cm]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: yes :-)
karmaGfa [29k\]: 3 good predictions :-)
ikkentobi [10k\]: notice how all the strong players are quiet and let weak players like ourself make a fool of ourselves commenthing this game?
tippanni [28k\]: :)
eon [5k?\]: not really, deft is a notorious kibitzer
karmaGfa [29k\]: E9 ?
tippanni [28k\]: e8 or d9?
ikkentobi [10k\]: ah i see.. they're all commenting in the other game
]
;B[ai]CR[ai]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: hu ? why thi move ?
]
;W[dk]CR[dk]
;B[el]CR[el]
;W[ck]CR[ck]C[PetaWilson [6k?\]: sente against w group here
ikkentobi [10k\]: sente move
karmaGfa [29k\]: e9 ?
PetaWilson [6k?\]: well, that was the idea at least
ikkentobi [10k\]: huh?
karmaGfa [29k\]: I don't understand what sente is
PetaWilson [6k?\]: ko now for the left
BigDoug [28k?\]: the other player has to respond to your move, so you keep the initiative
]
;B[ah]CR[ah]
;W[dj]CR[dj]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: ok
BigDoug [28k?\]: a gote move is one that doesn't not require a reply -- the other player then has the initiative
karmaGfa [29k\]: so sente for a player, it is an obligation to the other to react ?
BigDoug [28k?\]: yes, basically.  if you can keep the other player reacting to your moves, you're doing well
]
;B[ae]CR[ae]C[BigDoug [28k?\]: i.e., the best defence is a good offence
ikkentobi [10k\]: i would thought a11 is sente
]
;W[fn]CR[fn]
;B[go]CR[go]C[PetaWilson [6k?\]: looks like w sacrificed the d15 group
]
;W[fo]CR[fo]
;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[gp]CR[gp]C[BigDoug [28k?\]: yes -- it looks like it's cactus
watcher [-\]: but for what gain?
karmaGfa [29k\]: petaWilson: the d15 group was dead anyway, right ?
ikkentobi [10k\]: sensei, kibitz? :)
watcher [-\]: petawilson, the traitor, comments in the other game, too ;)
]
;B[hp]CR[hp]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[fq]CR[fq]
;W[hq]CR[hq]
;B[ho]CR[ho]C[PetaWilson [6k?\]: bit hard , 2 games
PetaWilson [6k?\]: but nice to kibitz
PetaWilson [6k?\]: although the games are beyond my grasp
]
;W[iq]CR[iq]
;B[gm]CR[gm]
;W[cq]CR[cq]C[ikkentobi [10k\]: i've been waiting for this  move
ChampFr [-\]: temps dépensé : 45 min pour noir / 20 min pour blanc
karmaGfa [29k\]: C ?
karmaGfa [29k\]: C4 ?
tippanni [28k\]: d3?
]
;B[bp]CR[bp]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: Yes !
]
;W[fr]CR[fr]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: 4 good predictions
]
;B[er]CR[er]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: G2
]
;W[dr]CR[dr]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: Oops
karmaGfa [29k\]: B4 <> C4 :p
karmaGfa [29k\]: E1 ?
potato9 [18k\]: d3
karmaGfa [29k\]: e1 is not good
]
;B[es]CR[es]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: ah ?
]
;W[np]CR[np]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: E3
karmaGfa [29k\]: ???
varg [2k\]: why e3 doesn´t work for white
karmaGfa [29k\]: I REALLY don't understand W
Glorrandir [1d\]: w E3 b E4 w D3 b G2
karmaGfa [29k\]: a, ok
karmaGfa [29k\]: thank you glorrandir. It's a bit hard to me to imagine the goban with 3 or 4 stone added :p
karmaGfa [29k\]: so E1 was a good move
]
;B[qp]CR[qp]C[varg [2k\]: how much territory will W make on the lower and right side? I mean W needs a lot of the framework
]
;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[qo]CR[qo]
;W[rq]CR[rq]
;B[ql]CR[ql]
;W[qk]CR[qk]
;B[pl]CR[pl]
;W[nk]CR[nk]C[lash [4k\]: It seems w trys to make much ko effective points 
]
;B[nm]CR[nm]
;W[po]CR[po]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: Q6 ?
]
;B[pn]CR[pn]
;W[on]CR[on]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: yes :-)
]
;B[oj]CR[oj]
;W[ok]CR[ok]
;B[pk]CR[pk]
;W[qj]CR[qj]
;B[om]CR[om]
;W[qn]CR[qn]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: good ..
karmaGfa [29k\]: R7 ?
karmaGfa [29k\]: another pronostic ?
BigDoug [28k?\]: almost midnight here -- good night everyone.  thanks for the help tonight
karmaGfa [29k\]: bye
lash [4k\]: bye
karmaGfa [29k\]: S6 seems to be better
karmaGfa [29k\]: nobody want to do comments ?
]
;B[lm]CR[lm]
;W[ni]CR[ni]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: is S6 a good move ?
watcher [-\]: i'd think r6 pushes black away very effectively
JanRa [27k?\]: who is playing?
]
;B[jn]CR[jn]C[ChampFr [-\]: see my info
]
;W[bo]CR[bo]
;B[cp]CR[cp]
;W[gs]CR[gs]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: E3
]
;B[eq]CR[eq]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: :-)
]
;W[ko]CR[ko]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: What can do W against S6 ?
watcher [-\]: s5 for example
karmaGfa [29k\]: then R7
watcher [-\]: s4
karmaGfa [29k\]: then r6
watcher [-\]: yupp
karmaGfa [29k\]: isn't it ?
watcher [-\]: yes, but i wouldn't consider that good for black enough to try
lash [4k\]: w judged to have more teritory now, from B5 to  L5 indicated so
killer246 [6k?\]: i think black may move k4 it god move
killer246 [6k?\]: ^^
killer246 [6k?\]: Is't it ?
KonradZuse [?\]: b r12 making miai of p11 and r17?
]
;B[pb]CR[pb]
;W[qb]CR[qb]
;B[qc]CR[qc]
;W[pc]CR[pc]
;B[rb]CR[rb]
;W[ob]CR[ob]
;B[qa]CR[qa]
;W[oc]CR[oc]
;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[na]CR[na]C[ChampFr [-\]: noir entre en byo-yomi (black is now in byo-yomi) : 15 pierres / 5 min ; blanc a utilisé 25 min
killer246 [6k?\]: next move black may K4 or Q12 
]
;B[re]CR[re]
;W[mb]CR[mb]C[killer246 [6k?\]: oh black What r you doing ?
killer246 [6k?\]: ^^
]
;B[qe]CR[qe]
;W[pe]CR[pe]
;B[pf]CR[pf]
;W[of]CR[of]
;B[pg]CR[pg]
;W[og]CR[og]
;B[ph]CR[ph]
;W[oh]CR[oh]C[ikkentobi [10k\]: i think go players hate each others...
ikkentobi [10k\]: "i don't want you too have that!!"  "oh yeah?!?! i don't want you to have that too!!!"
]
;B[rg]CR[rg]C[ikkentobi [10k\]: all of this in the subconscious level though
]
;W[oe]CR[oe]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: :-))
]
;B[lc]CR[lc]
;W[pm]CR[pm]
;B[ol]CR[ol]
;W[ml]CR[ml]
;B[mm]CR[mm]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: M8 ?
]
;W[mc]CR[mc]
;B[mo]CR[mo]
;W[lq]CR[lq]
;B[ld]CR[ld]
;W[lg]CR[lg]
;B[lh]CR[lh]
;W[mg]CR[mg]
;B[mj]CR[mj]
;W[nj]CR[nj]
;B[if]CR[if]
;W[ge]CR[ge]
;B[lb]CR[lb]
;W[md]CR[md]C[killer246 [6k?\]: god Black 
]
;B[hk]CR[hk]
;W[gk]CR[gk]
;B[hl]CR[hl]
;W[hj]CR[hj]
;B[fb]CR[fb]
;W[da]CR[da]
;B[ca]CR[ca]
;W[ea]CR[ea]
;B[cb]CR[cb]
;W[ap]CR[ap]
;B[aq]CR[aq]
;W[ao]CR[ao]
;B[bq]CR[bq]
;W[jo]CR[jo]
;B[ll]CR[ll]C[ikkentobi [10k\]: crazy score estimate
ikkentobi [10k\]: black win i think
cube [13k\]: wouldn't white G19 be fairly big?
]
;W[bj]CR[bj]
;B[ci]CR[ci]
;W[kg]CR[kg]
;B[kh]CR[kh]
;W[le]CR[le]
;B[ke]CR[ke]
;W[la]CR[la]
;B[ka]CR[ka]
;W[ma]CR[ma]
;B[kb]CR[kb]
;W[bk]CR[bk]
;B[lf]CR[lf]
;W[me]CR[me]
;B[kf]CR[kf]
;W[af]CR[af]C[ikkentobi [10k\]: black counted right??
cube [13k\]: only one-step for black
]
;B[be]CR[be]
;W[ei]CR[ei]
;B[bg]CR[bg]
;W[qd]CR[qd]
;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[bh]CR[bh]C[ikkentobi [10k\]: mother of all ko
]
;B[mf]CR[mf]
;W[nf]CR[nf]
;B[bg]CR[bg]C[PetaWilson [6k?\]: why is ko female?
]
;W[gl]CR[gl]C[ikkentobi [10k\]: black can't afford to lose this ko
PetaWilson [6k?\]: is that a ko threat?
]
;B[fm]CR[fm]
;W[bh]CR[bh]C[ikkentobi [10k\]: black certainly think so
rika [9k\]: q: who is who?
]
;B[hf]CR[hf]C[PetaWilson [6k?\]: dr who`s not around
cube [13k\]: black can afford to have one of his threats go by
]
;W[gf]CR[gf]
;B[bg]CR[bg]
;W[qh]CR[qh]
;B[qg]CR[qg]C[ikkentobi [10k\]: i hate the suspense of ko fight
]
;W[bh]CR[bh]C[ikkentobi [10k\]: too strong for my blood
karmaGfa [29k\]: how many time for black ?
]
;B[fk]CR[fk]C[killer246 [6k?\]: W k.o.
cube [13k\]: wierd
cube [13k\]: is that a two-step threat?
ikkentobi [10k\]: i think so
ikkentobi [10k\]: strange isn't it
]
;W[ek]CR[ek]
;B[bg]CR[bg]
;W[rl]CR[rl]C[ikkentobi [10k\]: white have enough??
]
;B[rm]CR[rm]
;W[bh]CR[bh]
;B[fl]CR[fl]
;W[fj]CR[fj]
;B[bg]CR[bg]C[ikkentobi [10k\]: for christ sake.. black
]
;W[rk]CR[rk]
;B[qm]CR[qm]
;W[bh]CR[bh]
(;B[qi]CR[qi])
(;B[pi]CR[pi]
;W[oi]CR[oi]
;B[bg]CR[bg]
;W[hm]CR[hm]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: J7 ?
PetaWilson [6k?\]: yes
]
;B[im]CR[im]
;W[bh]CR[bh]C[cube [13k\]: T6?
cube [13k\]: S6 i mean
PetaWilson [6k?\]: no
cube [13k\]: S6 isn't that big as a threat
cube [13k\]: but is definite profit
cube [13k\]: and white still has a two-step ko
]
;B[nd]CR[nd]
;W[od]CR[od]
;B[bg]CR[bg]C[ikkentobi [10k\]: n4
]
;W[hn]CR[hn]
(;B[bh]CR[bh])
(;B[gn]CR[gn]
;W[bh]CR[bh]C[karmaGfa [29k\]: ya eu koi, la ?
]
;B[mp]CR[mp]
;W[mq]CR[mq]
;B[bg]CR[bg]
;W[io]CR[io]
;B[in]CR[in]
;W[bh]CR[bh]
;B[no]CR[no]
;W[fh]CR[fh]
;B[bg]CR[bg]C[killer246 [6k?\]: ai buk hum noi 
]
;W[nn]CR[nn]C[killer246 [6k?\]: ^^
]
(;B[mn]CR[mn]
;W[bh]CR[bh]C[killer246 [6k?\]: -^-
ChampFr [-\]: noir dit oops 
ChampFr [-\]: abandonne et perd au temps dans la foulée
karmaGfa [29k\]: Arf
ChampFr [-\]: W+resign
ikkentobi [10k\]: black resigns? :)
ChampFr [-\]: this is final position
killer246 [6k?\]: umm i see
ChampFr [-\]: thanks to the observers, see you for next round
KonradZuse [?\]: yes, thx for entertaining us
lash [4k\]: thx
potato9 [18k\]: thx
killer246 [6k?\]: umm White nuk su jing jing 
Texto [8k\]: reste combien de temps ?
])
(;B[cf]CR[cf]
;W[mn]CR[mn]C[ChampFr [-\]: yes black resigned
ChampFr [-\]: he made a mistake
karmaGfa [29k\]: ba, il craind
guestman [?\]: looks ok
KonradZuse [?\]: should have taken, he still had s5/s6
]
;B[rn]CR[rn]
;W[pn]CR[pn]C[ChampFr [-\]: game is over, they are trying this now
noir [1k\]: noir n'avait pas joué contre toru ce matin?
guestman [?\]: ah ic, thx
ChampFr [-\]: si
noir [1k\]: et...?
killer246 [6k?\]: mee r rai lor Krai wai a'
ChampFr [-\]: noir avait gagné, on a retransmis les joueurs a une victoire cette aprem
killer246 [6k?\]: i do va win ko
ChampFr [-\]: enfin toru a perdu ce matin quoi :)
noir [1k\]: désolé
killer246 [6k?\]: i see white win ko 
killer246 [6k?\]: what 's happen?
ChampFr [-\]: they just wanted to count without black mistake
killer246 [6k?\]: Black Misstake?
]))))
